Parenting

SHRED

(28,136 posts) Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:49 PM Jul 2019

Why is corporal punishment called "discipline"?

I have never figured this out.

Are people trying to soften the word "punishment" by using the word "discipline"?

Discipline is shown by example. If the parents have discipline then the children will see it.

Punishment is punishment.

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Why is corporal punishment called "discipline"? (Original Post) SHRED Jul 2019 OP

Discipline has meant punishment to correct for centuries FBaggins Jul 2019 #1

I understand that SHRED Jul 2019 #3

I disagree leftieNanner Jul 2019 #6

All true... but still wrong FBaggins Jul 2019 #10

So monsters can beat the shit out of their kids while feeling self-righteous about it? RockRaven Jul 2019 #2

Corporal punishment doesn't work leftieNanner Jul 2019 #4

I've always thought this about corporal punishment SHRED Jul 2019 #5

It says a lot about the parents leftieNanner Jul 2019 #8

And then tell them not to hit others. 3catwoman3 Jul 2019 #11

True SHRED Jul 2019 #13

Because a certain ancient book mentions it more than a dozen times. Eugene Jul 2019 #7

Discipine sounds better than sadism, or abuse. eom guillaumeb Jul 2019 #9

Wishful thinking. WheelWalker Jul 2019 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #14

FBaggins

(27,802 posts)

1. Discipline has meant punishment to correct for centuries

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:57 PM

Jul 2019

It isn’t anything recent

SHRED

(28,136 posts)

3. I understand that

Reply to FBaggins (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:58 PM

Jul 2019

leftieNanner

(15,742 posts)

6. I disagree

Reply to FBaggins (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:03 PM

Jul 2019

The root of the word discipline means teaching. Jesus had disciples. He taught them. He didn't beat them. The modern connotation has come to include physical abuse, but it really doesn't work. Just IMHO.

FBaggins

(27,802 posts)

10. All true... but still wrong

Reply to leftieNanner (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:18 PM

Jul 2019

That’s the Latin root... but as it transferred to French (from whence it comes to English), it took on the meaning I cited.

The point is that the so-called “modern” connotation is about 900 years old

RockRaven

(16,528 posts)

2. So monsters can beat the shit out of their kids while feeling self-righteous about it?

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:57 PM

Jul 2019

or other people's kids if you're in one of those states with really fucked-up school rules/laws.

leftieNanner

(15,742 posts)

4. Corporal punishment doesn't work

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:58 PM

Jul 2019

It teaches kids that it's appropriate to solve problems with violence. Discipline means teaching.

Your question is a good one.

SHRED

(28,136 posts)

5. I've always thought this about corporal punishment

Reply to leftieNanner (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:01 PM

Jul 2019

Parents don't spank their friends when they misbehave yet will wail on their own kids when they do.

I've always thought how bizarre that must be for kids.

leftieNanner

(15,742 posts)

8. It says a lot about the parents

Reply to SHRED (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:07 PM

Jul 2019

And harms the kids. I had a challenging daughter when she was 2. I would give MYSELF a time out if I was getting angry and walk outside or into another room.

She then put herself in a time out at preschool when she was upset and went and sat in her cubby!