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Sparkly

(24,384 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 10:59 PM Jan 4

It's back. :(

Yesterday, I got the news I've been dreading: the high-grade serous endometrial cancer I battled with surgery, chemo, and radiation through 2023 - and since then with ongoing Herceptin infusions, scans, and tests to monitor - has metastasized to my lungs.

This puts me at Stage IV with a pretty dire prognosis. My oncologist is consulting other doctors about the risks of doing a needle biopsy for molecular analysis of the 'nodules' re: mutations (although I did have this in my first diagnosis, where genetic mutations were found - but Kaiser had sent me elsewhere, so something didn't transfer, I guess).

From there, I might repeat another six rounds of Carbo/Taxol, and lose my hair, eyelashes, and energy all over again -- to live how long? I know I shouldn't consult "Dr. Google," but it seems a matter of 5-12 months anyway, particularly if they don't do surgery. (And surgery has not been mentioned.)

I might just go straight to palliative care, but I have a baby granddaughter - a miracle! - and I want all the time I can to be with her and my daughter, to "put things in order," to write and record, to savor every minute and leave behind everything I can. The baby is 8 months old, so she will never remember me.

This is difficult. Life has given me many difficulties, so I'll find my way through this final one. (Meanwhile, please take good care of my husband, Stinky the Clown, and I hope you'll acknowledge whatever updates I, he, or we post as this goes forward.)

Meanwhile, I haven't told my daughter yet, and it weighs heavily on me. I want to tell her in person, but she's busy, taking the baby from place to place, working, managing her own healthcare needs... It's going to be extremely difficult for her to process, and I'm not sure how to spoon-feed it to her in small bites.

Thanks to all of you for 'being there' (meaning here, of course).

Sparkly (aka "Sparkly Fairy Princess," in my DU debut)

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It's back. :( (Original Post) Sparkly Jan 4 OP
I'm so sorry Sparkly. Owl Jan 4 #1
I'm so saddened to read of your dx SheltieLover Jan 4 #2
Very very upset2 news gor you. riverbendviewgal Jan 4 #3
I'm so sorry Sparkly. Bluethroughu Jan 4 #4
You and Stinky will be forever loves blm Jan 4 #5
Thanks, blm. It's been a long time, hasn't it? Sparkly Sunday #44
Yep. There's still a few dozen of us here. blm Sunday #48
That makes me feel better, somehow! Sparkly Sunday #59
😎🤓😎 blm Sunday #62
I'm sorry to read this. Just don't surrender without another fight. I think it's best to lay your sinkingfeeling Jan 4 #6
I agree with you. Sparkly Sunday #45
Im so sorry to hear this. Hugs. Vibes. onecaliberal Jan 4 #7
Sorry to hear your medical prognosis. magicarpet Jan 4 #8
Precious time shared with your husband, daughter and granddaughter Pachamama Jan 4 #9
That's absolutely in my plans. Sparkly Sunday #46
Definitely write about it. As much as you can. calimary Sunday #61
I'm so sorry. My thoughts are with the both of you. Solly Mack Jan 4 #10
I am sad for all of you. I understand how you want to spend your time. delisen Jan 4 #11
Sometimes, there are no words... Marie Marie Jan 4 #12
We are all sending good DU vibes your way. Nt spooky3 Jan 4 #13
:hug: :grouphug: elleng Jan 4 #14
Dammit 😔 FirstLight Jan 4 #15
I'm so sorry to hear this karin_sj Jan 4 #16
Thank you Sparkly Sunday #47
I'm so sorry. Dr. Shepper Jan 4 #17
I'm so sorry. I wish I could help. n/t Greybnk48 Jan 4 #18
My husband and i are almost mirroring you. Its tough and i wonder if the Karadeniz Jan 4 #19
Thanks. Sparkly Sunday #49
You are very brave soul and a thoughful parent Joinfortmill Jan 4 #20
Oh Sparkly. summer_in_TX Jan 4 #21
I'm sorry. cate94 Sunday #22
I am so sorry, Sparkly. sheshe2 Sunday #23
This is hard to hear... 2naSalit Sunday #24
... Kali Sunday #25
Gut wrenching news .. Jarqui Sunday #26
Exactly. Sparkly Sunday #50
Get more than one opinion Jarqui Monday #63
Big Hug Sparkly proud patriot Sunday #27
Sometimes the fight Figarosmom Sunday #28
Wish I could fix this KT2000 Sunday #29
Holding you in my heart, Sparkly radical noodle Sunday #30
I am so sorry. My heart is breaking for you and your family. Dem2theMax Sunday #31
Thank you - that is important advice. Sparkly Sunday #51
Holding you and Stinky in love and light. Your DU family is here for both niyad Sunday #32
Many thanks, niyad. Sparkly Sunday #52
Whew IbogaProject Sunday #33
Thank you Sparkly Sunday #53
Hey sweetie - calimary Sunday #34
The moments are few. Sparkly Sunday #54
I'm so very sorry, Sparky. Sending skylucy Sunday #35
I'm so sorry to hear of this heartbreaking diagnosis. virgdem Sunday #36
So very sorry to read this, Sparkly Fairy Princess babylonsister Sunday #37
Thanks, babylonsister! Sparkly Sunday #55
And I of course remember you babylonsister Tuesday #65
I am so sorry. murielm99 Sunday #38
I'm so sorry XanaDUer2 Sunday #39
Breakthrough medications tacksam Sunday #40
Thank you! Sparkly Sunday #56
Welcome to DU! KS Toronado Sunday #57
I'm so sorry, Sparkly. brer cat Sunday #41
I guess due to the recs I was able to see this - TBF Sunday #42
Hello, TBF Sparkly Sunday #58
-- Oh my goodness, thank you all so much for your replies, support, and care!! -- Sparkly Sunday #43
I am crying. Ferrets are Cool Sunday #60
That is horrific...so sorry 😢 Meowmee Tuesday #64
I read these posts about your health BootinUp Wednesday #66
With deepest sympathy, in no way meant to disallow an unexpected... NNadir Thursday #67

Bluethroughu

(6,138 posts)
4. I'm so sorry Sparkly.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:14 PM
Jan 4

I know you will make the right decision for you and your growing family.

I wish you all the miracles of modern medicine to get you healthy to live a long life.

Sparkly

(24,384 posts)
44. Thanks, blm. It's been a long time, hasn't it?
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 07:34 PM
Sunday

Hard to believe I've had connections here for 20+ years!!

Sparkly

(24,384 posts)
59. That makes me feel better, somehow!
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 10:46 PM
Sunday

Just take me on back to the 60s. Or the 70s. Or the 80s. Or the 90s.

sinkingfeeling

(53,395 posts)
6. I'm sorry to read this. Just don't surrender without another fight. I think it's best to lay your
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:17 PM
Jan 4

cards on the table with your daughter as soon as possible. She will want a say in the memories you make.

Sparkly

(24,384 posts)
45. I agree with you.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 07:35 PM
Sunday

Thank you for saying that.

Trying to make a plan now. I think a few things other family members have said have made her anxious.

magicarpet

(17,209 posts)
8. Sorry to hear your medical prognosis.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:21 PM
Jan 4

Wishing you and yours the very best as you travel through this medical journey. Do not push yourself too hard, but I hope all your goals and objectives are met. Don't forget DU is here if you need a shoulder to lean on.

Pachamama

(17,059 posts)
9. Precious time shared with your husband, daughter and granddaughter
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:21 PM
Jan 4

This is the only thing I can urge you to have as much as you can and to cherish each minute you can have. Because in the end this is the most important thing there is.

I am so sorry Sparkly. I am myself a cancer survivor and have lost several people in recent years. My Mother in law had a similar diagnosis and my children, her grandchildren were young. She spent as much time with them as possible and her children and took lots of pictures and also put a journal together and photo album together for my kids including video messages. My children were able to really appreciate these later and “know her”. I hope you can perhaps find doing a project like this to be an important gift you can create and leave as a legacy. And in the process love and live with your husband, daughter and granddaughter and this precious time.

Sparkly

(24,384 posts)
46. That's absolutely in my plans.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 07:39 PM
Sunday

Hopefully before I lose my hair (if I go through more chemo) and after I'm at a point where I won't just burst into tears every two seconds!

calimary

(84,796 posts)
61. Definitely write about it. As much as you can.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 11:17 PM
Sunday

It’s perfectly understandable that you have other things on your mind these days. But if you can, I hope you’ll write down some thoughts, reactions, observations - whatever you’re able to do. Your view will help enlarge and explain, especially for the many of us who WEREN’T there that day, but just watched it happen from a safe distance.

That part of The Record needs to be represented.

delisen

(6,647 posts)
11. I am sad for all of you. I understand how you want to spend your time.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:24 PM
Jan 4

Your husband’’s posts have often made me smile, and yet there you all were, going through so much. May things go as well as possible for you all.

FirstLight

(14,360 posts)
15. Dammit 😔
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:35 PM
Jan 4

That's a helluva note, Sparkly.

I'm so sorry. Just be grateful for every sunrise...its all any of us can do. At least you have time to try and get affairs in order. My worst fear is going too fast to make sure things are settled...

Please keep us updated and let us give you all the love and support you deserve.

karin_sj

(1,130 posts)
16. I'm so sorry to hear this
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:44 PM
Jan 4

When I was diagnosed with kidney cancer last year, I came across a valuable source of information called "Smart Patients." People with similar diseases post about their experiences and it's been pretty valuable. It is especially useful for people fighting stage IV cancer. You might consider joining to hear the stories of others who are battling this disease.

https://www.smartpatients.com/communities/endometrial-cancer

It sounds like there are quite a few clinical trials and it looks like they are using immunotherapy like keytruda for endometrial cancer. It might be worth looking into. There are a lot of them at UCSF right now, but there are probably others throughout the country.

https://www.cancer.gov/research/participate/clinical-trials/disease/endometrial-cancer/treatment

I wish you all the best during this difficult time. Sending healing thoughts your way and sending good thoughts to Stinky as well.

Karadeniz

(23,616 posts)
19. My husband and i are almost mirroring you. Its tough and i wonder if the
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:51 PM
Jan 4

GOP is going to take our struggle away from us by getting rid of preexisting conditions. But it's out of our hands. It's shocking how many Americans voted to kill friends and family.

I don't think you can spoon feed this to your daughter. My parents used to keep things from me and I felt excluded once I found out.

Hang in there as long as you can pain wise. I so appreciated my father's decades long fight against his cancers. I was never ready.

Tell Stinky your DU family is thinking of both of you. Do what gives you happiness. I enjoy watching all the sparrows that have taken over the courtyard!

Sparkly

(24,384 posts)
49. Thanks.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 09:33 PM
Sunday

I agree that there's no realistic way to spoon-feed this to my daughter, much as I would like not to overwhelm her. In my initial diagnosis, I think I understated the signs of the cancer's mutations and aggression. If there are only months left, it would be dishonest not to tell her the whole truth now. I'm just so afraid of her own reaction.

summer_in_TX

(3,351 posts)
21. Oh Sparkly.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:55 PM
Jan 4

I am so very sorry. I do hope the miracle of modern medicine gives you more blessings of time with your family, especially that precious granddaughter.

The research hospitals like M D Anderson often have the very latest research and have found medications that work. My friend with aggressive kidney cancer that had metastasized lucked into the doctor who had just completed the most recent successful research on a new medication. Four years ago.

In the meantime, I will be praying for you and your family every day, for your healing and also that whatever time you have is blessed.

2naSalit

(94,011 posts)
24. This is hard to hear...
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 12:19 AM
Sunday

But nothing compares, really. My best wishes for your future and the decisions you have before you.

Jarqui

(10,520 posts)
26. Gut wrenching news ..
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 12:34 AM
Sunday

I am so sorry.

Hard to find the words but a thought did come to mind

One of my best friends got a similar diagnosis re stage 4 lung cancer.
He did a lot of research. He elected to pass on more chemo and treatment that would make him sicker.
He was pretty good until the final two weeks when he got pretty ill.
We both thought he maximized his quality of life that remained - even though treatment might have prolonged his life.

Now everybody is different. You have to find your own path - what is best for you.
No one can be absolutely certain but I think his research and then asking doctors got him to the right decision for him.

Sparkly

(24,384 posts)
50. Exactly.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 09:42 PM
Sunday

I had a dear friend years ago who confronted ovarian cancer. I don't know the exact medical circumstances, but she kept "thinking positive" and "fighting." She went through more chemo, beyond the point that it seemed there was much gain for the pain... She died in bed, so sick and skeletal she was unrecognizable.

I'm hoping the doctors will be straight with me.

Jarqui

(10,520 posts)
63. Get more than one opinion
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 12:07 PM
Monday

If they don't line up, get a 3rd

My favorite question for doctors: "if you were me, what would you do?"
That cuts a bunch of the BS out. They usually get right down to it.

There is probably a forum (something like this) where those in this situation compare notes
Patients talking to patients
That might be helpful to get their perspective.

I am so sorry you are going through this.

Figarosmom

(3,636 posts)
28. Sometimes the fight
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 12:53 AM
Sunday

Is staying home to be with loved ones. You will make the right decision for you and your family. Sotty after all the fighting it you will have to make this choice

radical noodle

(8,875 posts)
30. Holding you in my heart, Sparkly
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:09 AM
Sunday

While there's nothing I can do or say to make this easier for you, please know I care and will be thinking of you.

Dem2theMax

(10,488 posts)
31. I am so sorry. My heart is breaking for you and your family.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:14 AM
Sunday

I can tell you one thing. If I were your daughter, I would want to know sooner, rather than later. Someone else already posted that the most important thing you have now is time. It is time where you can make cherished memories for your family.

Maybe take some of that time to write letters/make videos, to your baby granddaughter. Tell her stories about her mom. Tell her stories about you and her grandfather. Tell her the things you would tell her if you were there with her while she is growing up. Because you will be there with her, through your daughter, your husband, and everyone who is close to you. But to be able to read/hear your words, that will be priceless to her.

I will be sending you every positive thought and energy that I can. I wish I could do more.

niyad

(121,031 posts)
32. Holding you and Stinky in love and light. Your DU family is here for both
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:22 AM
Sunday

of you. Lean as hard as you need.

IbogaProject

(3,896 posts)
33. Whew
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:36 AM
Sunday

Keep an open mind.
And mostly focus on what you can leave for you desendants. Maybe start recording storys or have a kid interview over some sessions.

Here is a Zen Story:
Tigers and a Strawberry
The following is my all-time favourite Zen story, here translated by Paul Reps (Zen Flesh, Zen Bones, New York: Anchor/Doubleday, 1958, pages 22–23). See also “Relax” by Ellen Bass.

A man traveling across a field encountered a tiger. He fled, the tiger after him. Coming to a precipice, he caught hold of the root of a wild vine and swung himself down over the edge. The tiger sniffed at him from above. Trembling, the man looked down to where, far below, another tiger was waiting to eat him. Only the vine sustained him. Two mice, one white and one black, little by little started to gnaw away at the vine. The man saw a luscious strawberry near him. Grasping the vine with one hand, he plucked the strawberry with the other. How sweet it tasted!

calimary

(84,796 posts)
34. Hey sweetie -
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:43 AM
Sunday

Thank you for keeping us posted as you face yet another health challenge. I guess this is the kind of occurrence that make one really and seriously start treasuring every moment.

Write about it. Make a record of your thoughts and meditations and pondering of perplexing moments. Anyone lucky enough to read it will gain tremendous wisdom and insight into the human condition.

Sparkly

(24,384 posts)
54. The moments are few.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 10:00 PM
Sunday

I've tended to write and write and write over the years, sketching and blathering and outlining to the point I need an editor to erase all things embarrassing before anyone discovers them.

But yes, I have been thinking about this state I'm in as the epitome of the human condition, in multiple ways.

Thanks for your comments and camaraderie over these many years!

skylucy

(3,875 posts)
35. I'm so very sorry, Sparky. Sending
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 01:55 AM
Sunday

You, your husband and your whole family heartfelt prayers and hugs.

virgdem

(2,218 posts)
36. I'm so sorry to hear of this heartbreaking diagnosis.
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 04:27 AM
Sunday

Spend whatever time you have left with your family. That is the most important thing you can do. My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family at this difficult time.

babylonsister

(171,719 posts)
37. So very sorry to read this, Sparkly Fairy Princess
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 06:12 AM
Sunday

Life sure isn't fair, and FUCK CANCER SIDEWAYS.

Maybe a video to your granddaughter will be nice for you both. I hope you tell your daughter soon, she probably wouldn't want to be kept in the dark and it would be nice to have her to commiserate with. I'm glad Stinky is by your side; he's rock material from what I can gather.

Sparkly

(24,384 posts)
55. Thanks, babylonsister!
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 10:12 PM
Sunday

I remember you from wayyy back!!

I'll definitely make a video when I can manage it without crying, and I have a plan to tell her. The weird thing is that I'm not sure we're the two who can co-commiserate easily, at least not right now. I think we each need stronger support before we'll be ready to mourn together.

Stinky is strong, but he's a softy beneath his gruff exterior, and needs more support than he knows how to ask for. That's part of why I worry so much about him.

babylonsister

(171,719 posts)
65. And I of course remember you
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 09:24 PM
Tuesday

and Stinky.

You love and you worry. That will never change.

One foot in front of the other wherever it takes you. You know you are loved; I know you'll embrace that. Hugs to you!!!

tacksam

(1 post)
40. Breakthrough medications
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 12:16 PM
Sunday

Best wishes to you during this difficult time.
There have been recent developments in the treatments of women's cancers. It sounds as if your treatments have not included these.
First, there have been wonderful results with Enhertu. It was given breakthrough status for breast cancer several years ago. And, it was recently approved for HER2-positive endometrial cancer. If not that, there is also immunotherapy, such as with Jemperli. There are probably others, as new treatments are coming in or are in trials. It may be worthwhile to have second opinion consultations (in-person, Video, phone, etc.) to see the options. Your MD could help you set those up. Also, from what I've seen, the physical impact of Enhertu is not nearly as harsh as the older chemo's. You have a community behind you. You shouldn't be overwhelmed or alone in this.

Sparkly

(24,384 posts)
56. Thank you!
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 10:25 PM
Sunday

I have been having Herceptin (has many other names!) infusions every 3 weeks since ending chemo (because my serous endometrial cancer was HER2+), and I'm told this will continue along with whatever else comes next!

I have Kaiser, which lags a little behind the research, but I live in a metropolitan area with a lot of research hospitals. I reached out before, and will do so again at this stage, to be included in experimental trials.

Realistically though, I know this is a high-grade cancer, from some kind of rare, inherited genetic mutation.

TBF

(34,838 posts)
42. I guess due to the recs I was able to see this -
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 05:34 PM
Sunday

and Sparkly I want to say I'm happy to "meet" you. Your husband "Stinky" has been one of the readers I've enjoyed over the years. Perhaps he posts more often in GD?

Whatever you choose in terms of treatment or care, I hope you will find a way to tell your daughter soon. I have lost 2 sets of grandparents, mom, brother, and numerous aunts/uncles through the years. Particularly with my 2 grandmothers I was very happy they wrote to me to let me know they had serious health issues (I had moved across the country after college at that point), so I found a way to get home to visit with each of them in person.

Sparkly

(24,384 posts)
58. Hello, TBF
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 10:40 PM
Sunday

Yes, I came to DU first (as a former "Clarkie" in 2004) and Stinky ventured in a short while afterward. I'm sure he can be quite outspoken in GD at times.

Thank you for sharing your own family history. I hope you have a genetic counselor as part of your healthcare, and keep close watch on your own risk for cancer. If you have children, please be sure they know, too.

Oddly enough, I'd consulted a genetic counselor at Kaiser to discuss my risks, given multiple cancers in my family, including both of my parents and two of my sisters. I was told I had nothing to worry about! Two weeks later, I was diagnosed with this INHERITED genetic mutation. (My grandmother died of uterine cancer, but I was always told that "isn't inherited.&quot

There is so much they don't know. Y

Yes, I am trying to bring myself to video things for my granddaughter, but only when I can hold it together.

Sparkly

(24,384 posts)
43. -- Oh my goodness, thank you all so much for your replies, support, and care!! --
Sun Jan 5, 2025, 06:54 PM
Sunday

It's still 'sinking in.' I've arranged a time and place to break the terrible news to my daughter. One of my sisters is coming to visit this weekend.

I wrote a lot of questions to my doctor. ("Why not surgery?" "Are there clinical trials?" "Wasn't there genetic mutation information in the first analysis?" "Are we waiting for MRI results for my bone fractures before we get started, for some reason?&quot

Not that it's the most important thing except for morale including among the people around me, but I'm wondering again about trying a 'cool cap' to keep my hair. My infusion center has no such equipment though, so it'd involve dry ice and a lot of effort. Last time around, I did get a grant for this, but logistics made it impossible. I do have wigs (thanks to donations from neighbors and sisters), but they are so itchy and uncomfortable, I just wore caps. Any ideas or advice welcome.

I'm worried about how to spend each day, while I feel (and look) okay. Making videos for my granddaughter is a definite yes. Making an "advance directive," teaching Stinky how to do the e-banking, revisiting our wills, making a plan for my darling little demon of a dog. (Maybe I'll post something in the pet forum here!) Itemizing my library of books - some are valuable, some aren't, some were until the last dog destroyed them...

My thoughts are racing. It's hard to sleep. I'm sad, anxious, and feel guilty for having to leave people (and animals) who rely on me.

Again, thank you for being here for me!

Meowmee

(6,444 posts)
64. That is horrific...so sorry 😢
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 12:29 AM
Tuesday

I am hoping a treatment maybe can give you more time with your loved ones. 🤗

BootinUp

(49,206 posts)
66. I read these posts about your health
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 09:32 PM
Wednesday

with a weighty sadness but also continued admiration of your ability to share your thoughts and experience and wisdom.

NNadir

(34,927 posts)
67. With deepest sympathy, in no way meant to disallow an unexpected...
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 01:41 PM
Thursday

...breakthrough, may I suggest a reading for your family?

I'm currently healthy with no identified diseases, but I got a copy for my wife to have when my prognosis becomes poor as it surely will as I'm hardly immortal. I have also advised my sons that they should read it.

The book is by Palliative Care Physician Sunita Puri, it's called That Good Night.

Having lived through terminal illnesses with both my parents, and my wife's parents and through very rough times in family relations at the time as a result, I wish I'd been familiar with that book. It would have saved some of the grief layered on the grief of loss.

The wonderful thing I tell myself about dying, I remind myself as my inevitable mortality approaches, is that one cannot die without having lived. You have lived, and perhaps you can see, it makes all the pain of facing death to have done so more bearable.

I wish you peace.

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