Who would want to date them anyway?

I have a good career and have never wanted kids so I have no need to subject myself.

Didn't stop him from trying to use his 'power' to try to take advantage.

We separated, several inequities in his favor resulted but I receive survivor benefit (he died,) and Federal Health Plan as my supplement to Medicare.

Painting all men with such a broad brush is just wrong. If a woman doesn't want a man or marriage or kids, that's of course fine. But if a woman wants to date a man, there are plenty of good ones in all age ranges.

I know but it just seems like its harder to find the good man and many men start out good then turn bad in relationships. And women end up being trapped an enduring abuse they never thought would occur.

My husband isn’t perfect but he is very much a feminist, his mom taught him well. She never waited on him or his dad, taught him to take care of himself, and he doesn’t expect to be waited on. Politically we’re on the same page too. If he were to go first (we’re in our 60s) I doubt I would ever date, too many men of my generation don’t get it.

I worry that the term “feminist” tends to be interpreted as a distinct portion of individuals rather than the norm, because it’s reinforced by media (and others) as an outlier mindset.

The worst perpetrators of misogyny tend to get attention because of their extreme actions and points of view, yet somehow *not* being like them is never described as feminism. Instead, feminism seems to be considered just as extreme, perhaps as a natural counterbalance.

This could be another case of an accurate phrasing gone awry, as it did with global warming and defund the police. In those cases, as with feminism, the majority of our society would agree with the premise, but very quickly the phrase becomes sullied to represent something sinister and non-mainstream. We certainly know the who, how, and why behind that, but once the perception takes root it’s nearly impossible to reverse.

Bottom line, I bet most first-world men and women are feminists whether they know it or not, and irrespective of whether they’d accept that label or not. We still have a long way to go regarding women’s rights, but being a non-feminist today is actually the extremist position, and it would really help if people heard it stated that way. Not holding my breath, but…

some may have had chauvinist tendencies but none of them were evil

Very interesting. Sometimes its hard to tell how men are considering they change personalities instantly

yeah OK