Israel/Palestine

mopinko

(74,051 posts) Sun May 31, 2026, 08:05 AM 21 hrs ago

The Word They Are Destroying. From Confusion to Clarity

sorry for the fb link, but i thought this was a good, long article that clarifies what is a genocide, and y gaza isnt.
please take the time to read it.

Israel is strong enough to commit genocide in Gaza and does not want to. Hamas is too weak to commit genocide against Israel and wants to desperately. And Hamas did commit mass murder, targeted civilians for rape, recorded and celebrated the personal killing of children in barbaric ways, and then ran back into tunnels to hide from a real army.
Those three sentences contain the entire moral reality of this conflict. Everything Tucker Carlson said is a lie measured against them.

If Netanyahu meant literal extermination of every man, woman, child, and infant in Gaza, and the Israeli military has the demonstrated capacity to achieve that in roughly two weeks, then the population of Gaza declining by less than one percent over 31 months means one of exactly two things: either Netanyahu did not mean what Tucker says he meant, or the Israeli military is the most catastrophically incompetent extermination force in the history of organized violence.
Tucker wants Israel to be powerful enough to control the United States Congress and bankroll its own genocide with American tax dollars, and simultaneously incompetent enough to attempt the extermination of two million people and kill less than one percent of them over nearly three years. Those are not two positions a serious person holds at the same time. They are two incompatible antisemitic tropes wearing the same coat.

https://www.facebook.com/clayton.wood.338/posts/pfbid02EGBHxyzLAhrL53A68xaLgrGK63XcQyL816uW7XJNMp5QLkPBK1yH7LRL5323x9Aml

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The Word They Are Destroying. From Confusion to Clarity (Original Post) mopinko 21 hrs ago OP

Clayton Wood is a right-wing pastor and lawyer. Ocelot II 20 hrs ago #1

i found it interesting cuz he's taking on ppl like tucker. mopinko 19 hrs ago #4

This all seems to be part of an intra-MAGA war, with the isolationists led by Carlson Ocelot II 19 hrs ago #5

This is a load of bollocks. Ocelot II 19 hrs ago #2

his point is that intent is obviously missing. mopinko 19 hrs ago #3

Ocelot II

(131,453 posts)

1. Clayton Wood is a right-wing pastor and lawyer.

Reply to mopinko (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2026, 09:00 AM

20 hrs ago

Have a good look at his Facebook page, in which he trashes Jimmy Kimmel, Govs. Pritzker and Newsom, Mark Kelly and Ketanji Brown Jackson, defends the acquisition of Greenland, and posts lots of AI slop. Maybe not a go-to guy? https://www.facebook.com/clayton.wood.338/photos

mopinko

(74,051 posts)

4. i found it interesting cuz he's taking on ppl like tucker.

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #1)

Sun May 31, 2026, 10:35 AM

19 hrs ago

he may b a rw preacher, but he seems to hew much closer to what jesus ‘actually said’ (i dont buy any of that, but…) than most of the preachers that have their tentacles in this admin, indeed to our country.

i dont agree w most of what he posts, obviously. but let’s b real, that word, genocide, lost us the election. i’ve never accepted it, and i find it deeply disturbing that so many ppl, on both sides, accept it as truth. (or do they?)

Ocelot II

(131,453 posts)

5. This all seems to be part of an intra-MAGA war, with the isolationists led by Carlson

Reply to mopinko (Reply #4)

Sun May 31, 2026, 10:50 AM

19 hrs ago

vs. the GOP/MAGA supporters of Israel, who have been accusing Carlson of anti-Semitism. The author particularly takes issue with Carlson's failure to object to the treatment of Christians in the Middle East:

Tucker Carlson, who is now weeping on camera over Gaza and accusing Israel of genocide, has been largely silent on the systematic elimination of Christianity from the region where it was born. The Gulf states he regularly defends house Christians almost exclusively as migrant workers with no path to citizenship, no right to build a church, and no legal protection for their faith. That is not coexistence. That is a caste system with petroleum revenue.

The word genocide was invented to describe what the Ottoman Turks did to Armenian Christians beginning in 1915. Raphael Lemkin coined it specifically to explain why there is a unique category of evil when a state attempts to erase a people group entirely. The Turks went from subjugating Christians as second-class subjects under Islamic law to attempting their complete physical elimination. That is the act the word was invented to name.

Tucker has nothing to say about that. He has nothing to say about Iraq's Christians. He has nothing to say about Nagorno-Karabakh, where 100,000 Armenians were ethnically cleansed from their ancestral homeland in 2023 with barely a week of international coverage. He is moved to tears by Gaza. He invokes Rwanda. He says Israel tried to murder as many civilians as it possibly could. This is not analysis. This is the performance of moral concern, selectively applied in a direction that serves a specific ideological agenda, dressed up as prophetic courage.

Real courage would be speaking the truth about Muslims in the Middle East.

And there's where the author shows his right-wing ass: He might have some fair points about Tucker Carlson, who is also full of crap most of the time, but his real beef is about the Muslims and their treatment of Christians. Don't forget, this dude is an evangelical Christian pastor, and that whole theology is tied up with Israel and Christian Zionism. I'd stay well clear of this can of worms.

Ocelot II

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2. This is a load of bollocks.

Reply to mopinko (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2026, 10:26 AM

19 hrs ago

I'm not going to debate the question of whether or not Israel is committing genocide wrt Gaza, but this argument is just dumb. He's basically saying it's not genocide because they haven't killed enough people; since they could have killed all of the Palestinians in Gaza but they didn't, it can't be genocide. The term is loaded, of course, and has consequences, which is why there is such an intense debate, but according to the UN:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

Under that definition, at least, you don't have to kill everyone in a targeted group, or even most of them, if killing or harming members of the group is done with the intent to destroy the group, in whole or in part. It doesn't set a percentage. I'll let others debate whether genocide according to international law is occurring in Gaza, but I don't think the fact that there are still some Gazans alive and walking around rules it out as the above-cited author, a right-wing pastor, suggests.

mopinko

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3. his point is that intent is obviously missing.

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Sun May 31, 2026, 10:29 AM

19 hrs ago

if israel wanted to wipe out all palestinians, they’d b gone. instead, their population is increasing.
worst genocide ever.

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