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cbabe

(4,307 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:44 PM Nov 11

Mouin Rabbani on What Really Happened in Amsterdam Between Israeli Soccer Fans & Local Residents

https://www.democracynow.org/2024/11/11/netherlands_riots



local and international leaders were quick to brand as antisemitic, even though observers in Amsterdam have said it was Israeli hooligans who instigated much of the violence.


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Mouin Rabbani on What Really Happened in Amsterdam Between Israeli Soccer Fans & Local Residents (Original Post) cbabe Nov 11 OP
Yeh, Amy Goodman and Democracy Now. Really credible sources. 🙄 NoRethugFriends Nov 11 #1
I don't agree with all her guests. But this one is worth a listen imho. cbabe Nov 11 #2
Mouin Rabbani is a virulent antisemite. Mosby Nov 11 #3
Thanks for the info. I'll take a look. cbabe Nov 11 #4
Excellent video. AloeVera Nov 11 #9
Coming up on Democracynow: Mouin Rabbani on What Really Happened on Kristallnacht Beastly Boy Nov 11 #5
This is reminding me more and more of Remember the Maine and cbabe Nov 11 #6
I am afraid to ask what this reminds you of Beastly Boy Nov 11 #11
Don't ask, don't tell. cbabe Nov 11 #12
This "messenger" on the other hand, is not so easy to shoot down. AloeVera Nov 11 #7
Brings back memory of: cbabe Nov 11 #8
Yes, good analogy! AloeVera Nov 11 #10

AloeVera

(2,010 posts)
9. Excellent video.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 03:00 PM
Nov 11

Rabbani is a thoughtful man, measured in his responses and presents the "other" side very well. He comes armed with facts too.

Owen Jones is an excellent voice too.

So of course they're both anti-semites.


But thanks for posting the video, hope it gets a lot of views!

Beastly Boy

(11,305 posts)
5. Coming up on Democracynow: Mouin Rabbani on What Really Happened on Kristallnacht
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 01:30 PM
Nov 11

based on the select accounts by some German onlookers.

AloeVera

(2,010 posts)
7. This "messenger" on the other hand, is not so easy to shoot down.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 02:24 PM
Nov 11

A teenage "journalist" who filmed the Maccabi hooligans as they were going about their -apparently coordinated - rampage. Donning masks (!), throwing metal pipes and wooden boards at police cars and people, throwing stones at a home with a Palestinian flag and at the kid journalist and threatening him to put down his camera "for his own safety".

Interesting that, even after being attacked, the police allow the mob to rampage through the streets without making any arrests. Eventually the mob is herded onto buses, but are allowed to disembark to throw stones at a house with a Palestinian flag.

This on-the-ground-reporting by this amazing kid sure beats the selective, second-hand reporting of the MSM which always takes its cue from what Israel tells them.

Note that this violent rampage occurred after the match and the day after the Maccabi "ultras" instigated violence throughout Amsterdam, destroyed the taxi of a Muslim driver, attacked other drivers, tore down and burned Palestinian flags. The piece-de-resistance, in my view, though, were the chants such as "Death to the Arabs" and:

"Let IDF win, we will f*** the Arabs. Ole, ole, ole. In Gaza there’s no schooling, there’s no children left there.”

Please let that sink in.

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cbabe

(4,307 posts)
8. Brings back memory of:
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 02:52 PM
Nov 11
https://www.npr.org › sections › trial-over-killing-of-george-floyd › 2021 › 04 › 21 › 989480867 › darnella-frazier-teen-who-filmed-floyds-murder-praised-for-making-verdict-possib

Darnella Frazier, Who Filmed George Floyd's Murder, Hailed As A Hero ...

Apr 21, 2021The Black teenager who recorded the now-infamous video of Derek Chauvin pressing his knee on George

AloeVera

(2,010 posts)
10. Yes, good analogy!
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 03:05 PM
Nov 11

I could never bring myself to watch that video...


Vive la jeunesse!

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