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Dennis Donovan

(27,377 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 02:31 PM Nov 8

Cindy McCain: The unacceptable is confirmed: Famine is likely happening or imminent in north Gaza.

Cindy McCain
The unacceptable is confirmed:

Famine is likely happening or imminent in north Gaza.

Immediate steps MUST BE TAKEN to allow safe, rapid & unimpeded flow of humanitarian & commercial supplies to prevent an all-out catastrophe. NOW.

The Integrated Food Security Phase Classification
1h
Famine Review Committee Alert!❗️
There is a strong likelihood that famine is imminent in areas within the northern Gaza Strip.
Learn more ➡️
https://ipcinfo.org/fileadmin/user_upload/ipcinfo/docs/IPC_FRC_Alert_Gaza_Nov2024.pdf

1:20 PM · Nov 8, 2024



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Cindy McCain: The unacceptable is confirmed: Famine is likely happening or imminent in north Gaza. (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Nov 8 OP
People left enid602 Nov 8 #1
About 400,000 didn't leave. Yes, lived in the rubble for a year. Imagine that. AloeVera Nov 8 #13
God help them enid602 Nov 8 #15
I am sure Trump and musk will be right there to open the purse strings. JohnSJ Nov 8 #2
The Free Palestine folks in America AkFemDem Nov 8 #3
Aggressors enid602 Nov 8 #4
I rarely hear Hamas being referred to as aggressors. Beastly Boy Nov 8 #20
Aggressors Eko Nov 8 #26
Not Hamas and Islamic Jihad? Beastly Boy Nov 8 #28
There are bubbles and there are bubbles. Eko Nov 8 #29
Well, "we" haven't fretted much for 13 months of slaughter and semi-starvation. AloeVera Nov 8 #6
Pretty soon it won't be a problem Historic NY Nov 8 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Nov 8 #7
I hope you're not confusing her with John McCain's flaky daughter Meghan. Mister Ed Nov 8 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Nov 8 #10
She was appointed Executive Director of the World Food Programme Dennis Donovan Nov 8 #9
No. Mosby Nov 8 #11
You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding... AloeVera Nov 8 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Nov 8 #19
She sure fooled the Biden Admin AND the UN. AloeVera Nov 8 #21
No one in Gaza is starving. Mosby Nov 8 #23
My God I can't talk to you anymore. AloeVera Nov 8 #24
Lets not. Eko Nov 8 #27
Disaster Capitalism. Swoop in, claim the land, redevelop the coast for the wealthiest! Freethinker65 Nov 8 #12
Jared Kushner can't wait to build luxury condos on the site. Irish_Dem Nov 8 #14
Based on past history it is likely moniss Nov 8 #17
Dear Mr. Peepers: You were my first science teacher and seemed like such a smart person that I now turn to you once moniss Nov 8 #18
Dear moniss: The Gum Incident is forgiven. AloeVera Nov 8 #22
You're the best Mr. Peepers. nt moniss Nov 8 #25
Dear Mr. Peepers and Former Students, we are blessed to have your wisdom and cornball 24 Nov 8 #30
Israel rejects 'biased' warning of famine in Gaza Beastly Boy Nov 9 #31

AloeVera

(2,010 posts)
13. About 400,000 didn't leave. Yes, lived in the rubble for a year. Imagine that.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 03:15 PM
Nov 8

As if that wasn't bad enough, 5 weeks ago the IDF launched a renewed ground and air assault on the north. They said it was necessary to get Hamas who have regrouped there. You may have read he many accounts of bombing of schools where the displaced sheltered, and the attacks and raids on the remaining hospitals. Patients were evacuated, meaning they had to walk or crawl to wherever, while dodging sniper bullets. But there are no fully functioning hospitals left, so....I wonder what happens to all the wounded and sick, amidst all the bombing?

Yes, there are still people left in the north, though much fewer than 400,000. They cling to their land and/or have no place to go or are afraid of being killed en route.

The IDF has given them two choices. Leave or starve.

Those that have left will not be allowed to return, per the IDF. Those that remain will be starved or killed, likely.

The ethnic cleansing of the north is nearly complete. It's happening in broad daylight and judging by comments since the election, it seems just fine to some.

Yet we should remember what the U.S. said at the beginning of the war: people of Gaza must be allowed to return to their homes and occupation of Gaza was not acceptable. Of course they have no homes to return to, but still. It's their fucking LAND and HOME.





AkFemDem

(2,194 posts)
3. The Free Palestine folks in America
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 02:35 PM
Nov 8

Who either didn't vote, voted Stein, or flipped to Trump seem to think he's going to fix this, so we can all just stop fretting now.

enid602

(9,086 posts)
4. Aggressors
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 02:42 PM
Nov 8

Or we can assign at least some blame to the aggressors who have caused this situation.

Eko

(8,602 posts)
26. Aggressors
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 08:06 PM
Nov 8

Is the plural form of Aggressor. That means more than one. One would think logically that they are talking about 2 different groups since they used the plural form. That would be hamas and Israel.

Beastly Boy

(11,305 posts)
28. Not Hamas and Islamic Jihad?
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 08:39 PM
Nov 8

Or, if more than one, it could be Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah... or Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and the Houthis... or Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Iran...

Aggressors. The possibilities boggle the mind.

AloeVera

(2,010 posts)
6. Well, "we" haven't fretted much for 13 months of slaughter and semi-starvation.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 02:51 PM
Nov 8

Including babies ntentionally deprived of baby formula who starved to death for God's sake!

Why would "we" start now?

A lot of people can starve in 10 weeks.

Oh well. Those people in Gaza didn't vote for us!

Historic NY

(38,043 posts)
5. Pretty soon it won't be a problem
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 02:50 PM
Nov 8

because Trump has other kettles of fish to fry and he green lighted BiBi.

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Mister Ed

(6,385 posts)
8. I hope you're not confusing her with John McCain's flaky daughter Meghan.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 02:54 PM
Nov 8

It's my understanding that Cindy McCain, John's widow, is involved in respectable charity work and advocacy.

Response to Mister Ed (Reply #8)

Dennis Donovan

(27,377 posts)
9. She was appointed Executive Director of the World Food Programme
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 02:55 PM
Nov 8

Before that, President Biden appointed her the 12th United States Ambassador to the United Nations Agencies for Food and Agriculture.

Good enough for you?

AloeVera

(2,010 posts)
16. You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding...
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 03:47 PM
Nov 8

She is the ED of the World Food Program.

Prior to joining WFP, she was appointed by the Biden Administrationto serve as Ambassador and Permanent Representative of the United States Mission to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Agencies in Rome.

Response to AloeVera (Reply #16)

AloeVera

(2,010 posts)
21. She sure fooled the Biden Admin AND the UN.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 05:41 PM
Nov 8

So let's just discount everything she says about the starvation in Gaza.

That's the point, isn't it? Shoot the messenger?



Edited to add: Besides, Republicans care so much about Gaza, right? Surely when a Republican says it's bad in Gaza, it must be absolutely horrendous!!

Freethinker65

(11,162 posts)
12. Disaster Capitalism. Swoop in, claim the land, redevelop the coast for the wealthiest!
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 02:59 PM
Nov 8

That's what all those that didn't vote for Harris because Biden/Harris didn't single handedly end the Gaza Israel "war" fast enough we're told was going to happen.

moniss

(6,145 posts)
17. Based on past history it is likely
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 03:48 PM
Nov 8

that a cleansing of the scene will take place so that the outside world doesn't know the truth. Given all of the collapsed residential buildings in Gaza it is a given that there are many dead still buried in the rubble. I can assure you that the IDF bulldozers will be "clearing" the rubble once the shooting stops in all of Gaza and there will be no efforts allowed to recover or find bodies and there will be no independent observers allowed from the press or humanitarian organizations.

The access to information is heavily controlled by the Israeli government. The censorship threat is very real. Having a big "PRESS" sign on yourself or your vehicle makes your identity as a target even easier.

moniss

(6,145 posts)
18. Dear Mr. Peepers: You were my first science teacher and seemed like such a smart person that I now turn to you once
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 04:22 PM
Nov 8

again about a question that has come up. This OP on DU put up a good informational post but some people around the world claim to now have a problem with Cindy McCain because she is a Republican and so, apparently to them, if she says something about the dire situation of starvation in Northern Gaza it should not appear on sites supporting Democrats. But oddly enough when Republicans and GQP folks made statements giving carte blanche support to the radical right Israeli government there were no such outcries from those same folks around the world about party affiliation when quotes would appear. So golly gee Mr. Peepers I'm all confused about whether it's the political party identified with that is the real problem for some around the world or is it the content? Is it actually that I can't figure it out because I'm low on chocolate milk and cookies? I thank you in advance for your guidance.

Sincerely,

Moniss (and once again for the record it wasn't me who put that gum under my desk)

AloeVera

(2,010 posts)
22. Dear moniss: The Gum Incident is forgiven.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 06:01 PM
Nov 8

However...

You were the smartest kid in my class. Therefore I am disappointed that you don't recognize an instance of the dark art of Deflection, Demonization and Shooting the Messenger. I recall I taught you about Hypocrisy and Double Standards too.

Just kidding. I know you are very smart. Chocolate milk and cookies on me.
Sincerely,
Mr. Peepers

cornball 24

(1,514 posts)
30. Dear Mr. Peepers and Former Students, we are blessed to have your wisdom and
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 08:59 PM
Nov 8

dedication to truth and facts in what many regard as a very dark time in our history. Thank you!

Beastly Boy

(11,305 posts)
31. Israel rejects 'biased' warning of famine in Gaza
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:19 AM
Nov 9
Israel rejected on Saturday a group of global food security experts’ warning of famine in parts of northern Gaza where it is waging war against Palestinian militant group Hamas.

“Unfortunately, the researchers continue to rely on partial, biased data and superficial sources with vested interests,” the military said in a statement.

The independent Famine Review Committee (FRC) said on Friday in a rare alert that there was a strong likelihood of imminent famine in parts of north Gaza with immediate action required from the warring parties to ease a catastrophic situation.

Israel’s military said it had increased aid efforts including opening an additional crossing on Friday.

In the last two months, 39,000 trucks carrying more than 840,000 tons of food have entered Gaza, it said, and meetings were taking place daily with the UN which had 700 trucks of aid awaiting pickup and distribution.
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2024/11/09/israel-rejects-biased-warning-of-famine-in-gaza

So why is it that there is not even an attempt to find out what happened to the 840,000 tons of food that already entered into Gaza in the past month? One would think the answer to this question would have something to do with starving Gazans, no?

Just look at this thread. Lots of self-righteous indignation being randomly thrown around against Israel, but not a word about Hamas stealing humanitarian aid from Gazan civilians.

One keeps wondering about such blunt displays of sanctimonious partiality...
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