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David__77

(23,879 posts)
Thu May 2, 2024, 08:54 AM May 2024

Israel accused of possible war crime over killing of West Bank boy

In the early afternoon of 29 November last year, several Palestinian boys descended on to their street in the occupied West Bank, where they often played together.

Minutes later, two of them lay dead from gunshots fired by Israeli soldiers - Basil, 15, and eight-year-old Adam.

As part of an investigation into the conduct of Israel's security forces in the West Bank, which has been under military occupation for more than half a century, the BBC has pieced together what happened on the day the two boys were killed.

Mobile phone and CCTV footage, information about the movements of Israel's military, witness testimony and detailed investigation of the scene, including taking measurements, combine to reveal evidence suggesting serious human rights violations.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw07wgrwzywo.amp

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Israel accused of possible war crime over killing of West Bank boy (Original Post) David__77 May 2024 OP
The IDF was targeting the tunnels that all Palestinians carry around in their pockets, of course... ExciteBike66 May 2024 #1
Careful, or you be called a pro-HAMAS antisemite Orrex May 2024 #3
If someone thinks that, then they are ignorant of my posts on the subject ExciteBike66 May 2024 #7
The IDF has ramped up its attacks and murders of Palestinians in the West Bank since last October. Lonestarblue May 2024 #2
History will NOT be kind. nt TeamProg May 2024 #4
A lot of "reserves" are being spent with the intention of neutralizing opposition to this. David__77 May 2024 #5
What a surprise! UN speculating on inconclusive evidence is an accusation! Beastly Boy May 2024 #6
Readers will assess what they think of Israeli forces' killing of the child. David__77 May 2024 #8
I am the reader (thank you for making me one) and I assessed. Beastly Boy May 2024 #9
And I am a reader and I assessed Eko May 2024 #10
Good for you! I am sure the poster who raised the issue will be happy to hear from you. Beastly Boy May 2024 #11
No, Eko May 2024 #12
I am surprised but relieved. Beastly Boy May 2024 #13
Ha Ha, Eko May 2024 #14
Sure. Whatever act makes it fine for you. Or not. Or makes it fine but not makes you fine. Beastly Boy May 2024 #15
8 year old kid shot in the back of the head. Eko May 2024 #16
I thought saying it to me was fine in and of itself. Beastly Boy May 2024 #17
then why ask if it made me feel fine? Eko May 2024 #18

ExciteBike66

(2,640 posts)
1. The IDF was targeting the tunnels that all Palestinians carry around in their pockets, of course...
Thu May 2, 2024, 08:58 AM
May 2024

Orrex

(64,323 posts)
3. Careful, or you be called a pro-HAMAS antisemite
Thu May 2, 2024, 09:01 AM
May 2024

I’ve been so accused quite a few times for similar comments.

ExciteBike66

(2,640 posts)
7. If someone thinks that, then they are ignorant of my posts on the subject
Thu May 2, 2024, 02:13 PM
May 2024

No knock on them, they can't be expected to read every single post I have written.

Lonestarblue

(11,982 posts)
2. The IDF has ramped up its attacks and murders of Palestinians in the West Bank since last October.
Thu May 2, 2024, 08:59 AM
May 2024

None of the boys in the incident were armed, and the IDF shot the 8-year-old in the back of the head as he was trying to leave. The IDF is a terrorist organization with total immunity from Israel for freely murdering Palestinian civilians.

David__77

(23,879 posts)
5. A lot of "reserves" are being spent with the intention of neutralizing opposition to this.
Thu May 2, 2024, 09:45 AM
May 2024

The actions of Israel’s forces are stamped with approval by the United States. This is bad for the people of this country as well as the people of the world.

Beastly Boy

(11,309 posts)
6. What a surprise! UN speculating on inconclusive evidence is an accusation!
Thu May 2, 2024, 11:53 AM
May 2024
Ben Saul, the UN special rapporteur on human rights and counter-terrorism, said there may be questions about whether lethal force could have been used legally in Basil's case, if he was holding an explosive.

"For Adam, this appears to be a violation of the International Humanitarian Law prohibitions on deliberately, indiscriminately or disproportionately attacking civilians, a war crime, and a violation of the human right to life," Mr Saul said.


There may be questions... could have been used... if he was holding an explosive... this appears to be...

What a decidedly unequivocal accusation... of possible crimes!

And just look at the responses the OP triggered. It is not the non-existent accusation, it is the knee-jerk reactions to it that is of paramount importance, isn't it?

Beastly Boy

(11,309 posts)
9. I am the reader (thank you for making me one) and I assessed.
Thu May 2, 2024, 05:42 PM
May 2024

And I concluded, based on the article, that this is a glaring example of sloppy (investigative? Ha!) journalism crowned by a sensational headline that promises far more than the article delivers.

Which, of course, should not prevent you from posting shoddy stories for reasons other than their journalistic distinction. Just don't be surprised that readers are free to assess a lot more than what you expect them to assess.

Eko

(8,604 posts)
10. And I am a reader and I assessed
Thu May 2, 2024, 07:43 PM
May 2024

That shooting a eight year old kid in the back of the head is pretty much all you need to know about this situation. For some of us that was all we needed to asses this article.

Beastly Boy

(11,309 posts)
11. Good for you! I am sure the poster who raised the issue will be happy to hear from you.
Thu May 2, 2024, 09:35 PM
May 2024

You may reply to Post #8 in this thread to get his attention.

Beastly Boy

(11,309 posts)
13. I am surprised but relieved.
Thu May 2, 2024, 10:36 PM
May 2024

Surprised that saying things to me would make anyone fine.

And relieved that saying things to me made someone fine.

Good night!

Eko

(8,604 posts)
14. Ha Ha,
Thu May 2, 2024, 10:43 PM
May 2024

It was
saying it to you was fine. That means the act of saying it to you was fine.
Not that it made me fine. Not sure how you got that from what I said.

Beastly Boy

(11,309 posts)
15. Sure. Whatever act makes it fine for you. Or not. Or makes it fine but not makes you fine.
Thu May 2, 2024, 11:17 PM
May 2024

Or makes you fine but not makes it fine.Take your pick and go with it!

Either way, this acting out the act of saying it to me made me bored. Or is it the acting out the act of saying it to me that makes it boring whether I am bored or not?

Eko

(8,604 posts)
16. 8 year old kid shot in the back of the head.
Fri May 3, 2024, 12:23 AM
May 2024

Its interesting how much out of your way you have gone to say nothing about that. But you know, saying something that I did not say and when confronted on it you just keep on talking about the thing I did not say,,,,,,,,instead of actually responding to the point I brought up. Bored, Interesting.

Beastly Boy

(11,309 posts)
17. I thought saying it to me was fine in and of itself.
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:26 AM
May 2024

Is it not fine anymore?

Didn't you get it yet? I am not interested in conducting bad faith exchanges. I was initially responding to not you. I didn't invite your comments and I don't care for them. The first thing I did was direct you to the poster who would be interested. You said no, saying it to me was fine.

Well, you said it. And it is fine. End of story. Good bye.

Eko

(8,604 posts)
18. then why ask if it made me feel fine?
Fri May 3, 2024, 06:29 PM
May 2024

Nowhere did I say it made me feel fine but you decided that it did. I'm not sure what a bad faith exchange is but would that be one? Where someone puts words in someone else's mouth? I'll have to think about it and do some research.
Have a good one,
Eko.

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