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ericson00

(2,707 posts)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:31 PM Nov 2016

Some Jewish Leaders Question Schumers Backing Of Israel Critic Rep. Keith Ellison For DNC Chair

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/11/15/schumer-keith-ellison-dnc/

Prominent Jewish leaders told CBS2’s Kramer they are upset with Schumer for backing Ellison, who has been highly critical of Israel.

The Jewish leaders recited a litany of concerns. Ellison, the first Muslim in Congress, worked to insert pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel pranks into the Democratic Party platform, but they were stopped by the Clinton team.

On a trip to Israel last summer, Ellison posted a photo of a sign in Hebron declaring Israel to be an apartheid state. He also proudly defended Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan against accusations of being anti-Semitic.


If this guy becomes party chair, I might leave the Democratic Party. I would never join the GOP, but we cannot allow a Corbynization of the DNC to happen.
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Some Jewish Leaders Question Schumers Backing Of Israel Critic Rep. Keith Ellison For DNC Chair (Original Post) ericson00 Nov 2016 OP
Ellison, SPLC, even Bernie Uponthegears Nov 2016 #1
"Prominent Jewish leaders told CBS2s Kramer they are upset with Schumer for backing Ellison" Wilms Nov 2016 #2
sorry, but Jews are a more useful voting bloc than the Muslims; they've contributed to the party ericson00 Nov 2016 #4
Israel is a "massive political liability". Wilms Nov 2016 #5
too bad the American people stand with Israel ericson00 Nov 2016 #6
That doesn't necessarily mean they want a Senator pushed around. Wilms Nov 2016 #7
54% vs 19%; that's a 35% margin ericson00 Nov 2016 #8
Interesting. Wilms Nov 2016 #9
Tfb. elehhhhna Nov 2016 #3
 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
1. Ellison, SPLC, even Bernie
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:07 PM
Nov 2016

Anyone else that you think needs to go under the bus for defying Likud?

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
2. "Prominent Jewish leaders told CBS2s Kramer they are upset with Schumer for backing Ellison"
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:12 PM
Nov 2016

Oh-Noes!1!!1

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
4. sorry, but Jews are a more useful voting bloc than the Muslims; they've contributed to the party
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 08:02 PM
Nov 2016

both activity-wise and monetarily, and they're not a massive political liability, nor is there a risk of members of it blowing themselves up around the country and the world in the name of their religion. Jews win. Sorry.

Now that moderates like the Clintons are gone, if the Dem party engages left-wing anti-Semites, you'll see more situations like 2012 with the Jewish vote where Romney hit a record, but without Obama, it won't be enough nationally for a Democrat to win nationally anyway. Also, there are a lot of Jews in FL, PA, MI, and parts of OH and WI.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
6. too bad the American people stand with Israel
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:44 PM
Nov 2016


so its hard to call Israel a liability with a massive supermajority on your side.
 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
8. 54% vs 19%; that's a 35% margin
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:06 PM
Nov 2016

which is similar to how badly Obama beat McCain in Vermont 8 years ago. Only this time, the figures are national. Mondale only lost by 18% and McGovern by 23%. 49 states right there.

a 35% margin of victory in a national vote would likely be all 50 states and 538 electoral votes right there.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
9. Interesting.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:28 PM
Nov 2016

I didn't see it as a contest between Israel and Palestine. Ideally very few would, and the rest would advocate a fair and sustainable agreement.

But that's just me.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
3. Tfb.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:27 PM
Nov 2016

Ftr I have an uncle who died a prisoner in a Nazi camp in 1944.

Israels gov and the Jewish people should not be assumed to share each others positions. Like us and Trump.

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