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Related: About this forumAbsentee-voter exit poll: Trump wins Israel by [35] points less than Romney did
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Absentee-voter-exit-poll-Trump-wins-Israel-by-65-points-less-than-Romney-did-471569As The Jerusalem Post exclusively reported on Wednesday, Trump received 49% of the Israeli-American vote, while Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton got 44%, according to the poll conducted by get-out-the-vote organization iVoteIsrael and KEEVOON Global Research.
This makes me hopeful that the attempt by some on the right and the left to make Israel into a partisan issue will soon end, come Tuesday. Also, exit polls DO have margins of error, so this could've been closer than seems.
PS: I edited the headline because they made an error.
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LuvNewcastle
(17,044 posts)I'll bet Hillary is much more involved in her church than Trump is in his.
gto
(24 posts)ericson00
(2,707 posts)as Bush reversed his party's milquetoast reputation on Israel after his father had piss poor relations with them, Bob Dole wasn't very popular with Israel (he tried to look pro-Israel for '96 but his record before was anything but). Bush did far better in 2004 with the Jewish vote than he did in 2000 and than Dole or Bush '92.
Also, Obama's attempt to make America less hated in the Muslim world, by putting "daylight" between America and Israel didn't help.
Look at the bright side of the ultimate result for 2016 tho; the result, a 4 point difference, might be in the margin of error, given that its an exit poll.
All Obama did is take a more neutral stance and call Israel on their settlement bullshit instead of staying silent. He also refused to subordinate U.S. policy to the whims of Netanyahu. This was not a mistake at all. If anything we need more daylight between us and Israel, not less.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)hence why it didn't succeed.
If one simply doesn't like Israel, then of course it was good. Obama says he likes Israel, which many debate, but if we take him at his word, then the motive for "daylight" failed, and did so miserably.
What I find bothersome is that Jewish and Israel/american citizens are voting for a someone who resembles in every way Hitler.... You are a bunch of fucking fools.......
ericson00
(2,707 posts)much of which, quite frankly, is a helluva lot more like Hitler than Trump.
shira
(30,109 posts)http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295729-poll-clinton-leads-trump-by-42-points-among-jewish-voters
Israelis overall prefer Clinton to Trump by nearly a 2:1 margin...
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/21/politics/israel-poll-trump-clinton/
rtracey
(2,062 posts)one can hope, because Trump as president is a revisit to 1939
ericson00
(2,707 posts)I don't like the guy, or I wouldn't be on this site. But no, he's not Hitler, nor is he peddling the Jewish-Masonic-Bolshevik-Capitalist conspiracy theories that Hitler did (which he inherited from Protocols and Henry Ford's "International Jew" tome).
rtracey
(2,062 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)those living in Israel, like Israelis in general, tilt considerably to the right of those living in the US (they overwhelmingly supported Romney in 2012).
Difference between Romney and Trump for them is pretty simple: Trump's movement and campaign rhetoric is full of anti-Semitism, some coded, some blatant.