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C0RI0LANUS

(1,843 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:38 AM Sunday

Kiev In Flames After Massive Russian Attack


Where Vladimir Putin belongs.

ICC-indicted war criminal Vladimir Putin continued his Nakba against Ukrainians with a massive drone attack against Kiev as winter sets in. This is the man that President-elect Donald Trump admires. Casualty counts are still being tabulated.


Ukrainians take shelter in a metro station during the 20 Dec attack on Kiev.



This poor child was heard calling "Mama!" as a woman led her briskly to safety, away from the burning car behind them, following Russian air strikes on Kiev on 20 Dec.



St. Nicholas Church was among the buildings damaged in Kiev.



More than 600 residential buildings in the capital were left without heating as a result of the attacks.


A Ukrainian woman appears shocked, cradling her dog, in the wake of the attack.


Just as ICC indicted war criminal Russian President Vladimir Putin is cruelly immiserating the people of Ukraine this winter, so too is similarly indicted Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu cruelly immiserating the people of Gaza.

Do either of these ten-year-old girls below look like terrorists?


The visibly emotional Nadine (10) questioned why she and the people around her were being mercilessly attacked by the IDF. (Photo: Social media)



After losing her eye in an IDF attack, Areej Asaliya (10) said “My life will never be the same again.” But what future would Areej have had anyway in the impoverished ghetto of Gaza? (Photo: Mahmoud Ajjour, The Palestine Chronicle)

One of the major differences between Putin’s Nakba against the Ukrainians and Netanyahu’s pogrom against the Palestinians: Funding.




The hard-working American taxpayer is rightfully funding the defense of one people from suffering while wrongfully funding the suffering of another. Since Feb 2022, the US has allocated $113.4 billion in emergency funding to support Ukraine. Meanwhile, the US committed over $3.3 billion in foreign assistance to Israel in 2022, the most recent year for which data exists. About $8.8 million of that went toward the country's economy, while 99.7% of the aid went to the IDF. From 1951 to 2022, US aid to Israel totaled $317.9 billion.




Sources:

https://www.rferl.org/a/air-raid-warning-attacks-kyiv-ukraine/33248178.html

https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-strikes-kyiv-ukraine-/33246699.html

https://indianexpress.com/article/trending/trending-globally/gaza-israel-hamas-militant-group-10-year-old-breaks-down-viral-video-7318773/

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-money-has-the-us-given-ukraine-since-russias-invasion/

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-military-aid-does-the-us-give-to-israel/
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elleng

(136,819 posts)
1. And tmp ain't gonna complain.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 02:51 AM
Sunday

Sure wouldn't complain if it were Anatevka. The town of Anatevka is based on Boyarka, a town near Aleichem's birthplace in central Ukraine.

Hsnukkah coming up December 25

C0RI0LANUS

(1,843 posts)
2. You're right, elleng. Trumpf cares not a whit about any Ukrainian or Palestinian suffering, not one iota.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:11 AM
Sunday

In fact, Trumpf admires two war criminals: Netanyahu and Putin. His bromances with them and their secret phone calls must really be something. Meanwhile the bombs keep dropping and Old Man Winter is holding the door for the Grim Reaper.




Irish_Dem

(59,651 posts)
3. Putin is the 21st century Hitler.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 07:29 AM
Sunday

He has the same desire to take all of Europe and be the dominant global superpower.
And kill as many people as it takes to achieve his goal.

druidity33

(6,596 posts)
5. What massive attack?
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 07:55 AM
Sunday

This is misleading. Russia has been bombarding Kyiv weekly for 2 years. Sometimes 30 or 40 glide bombs at a time. Their attacks have been lessening of late. And Ukraine has been shooting more stuff down.



from yesterday:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/12/21/2293139/-Russian-stuff-blowing-up-Wave-of-Ukrainian-drones-strike-Russia-s-fifth-largest-city?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web

Beastly Boy

(11,305 posts)
6. In light of the headline of the OP, the purpose of your post makes little sense.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:50 AM
Sunday

It appears that the main purpose of the OP, contrary to what its header suggests, is to compare US funding for Ukraine and Israel rather than bring attention to the recent events in Kyiv (not Kiev, which is the city's Russian name, not used officially since Ukraine became independent of the Soviet Union in 1991), and not to highlight Russia's attack on Kyiv on December 20 at all. Less than half of your post is dedicated to covering the subject event, and its content and commentaries were peppered with rather awkward references to Palestinians, very few of whom I suspect were in Kyiv on Dec. 20.

Yes, the events you are reporting are dramatic, but there is nothing else they have in common. A rather weak departure point to make comparisons.

One of your sources had absolutely nothing in it to connect it to the Kyiv attack. Two citations from another source had absolutely nothing in them to connect events in Gaza to Kyiv. Neither one of these three sources support your premises, other than by far-fetched association and conjecture of your own making, not the facts or the data contained in them.

The only source that contains data that may be compared to possibly make your point is usafacts.org. But even here, the comparison is between apples and oranges.

You probably imagined the numbers from the two citations in that source would be comparable, so your punchline,

"One of the major differences between Putin’s Nakba against the Ukrainians and Netanyahu’s pogrom against the Palestinians: Funding. The hard-working American taxpayer is rightfully funding the defense of one people from suffering while wrongfully funding the suffering of another. Since Feb 2022, the US has allocated $113.4 billion in emergency funding to support Ukraine. Meanwhile, the US committed over $3.3 billion in foreign assistance to Israel in 2022, the most recent year for which data exists. About $8.8 million of that went toward the country's economy, while 99.7% of the aid went to the IDF. From 1951 to 2022, US aid to Israel totaled $317.9 billion."

might appear plausible. But even here, even if one disregards the preposterous "Putin's Nakba" red herring, and a naked subjectivity of "rightfully funding the defense of one people from suffering while wrongfully funding the suffering of another", a cursory look at the numbers alone completely obliterates your presuppositions.

First, the latest available data for US military aid to Israel (https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-us-military-spending-8e6e5033f7a1334bf6e35f86e7040e14): 17.4 billion since October 7 (roughly a 14 month period). This accounts for military aid to fight Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Iran, among other lesser but equally deadly enemies.

Compare this to Ukraine's $113.5 billion (not counting the $26 billion in Presidential drawdown funds, which alone, at 0.8 billion per month is nearly comparable to the total of 1.25 billion per month military aid given to Israel since Oct. 7) to oppose Russia. This amounts to roughly 3.4 billion per month, which is 270% more than Israel got.

If your concern is the major difference in the contributions of hard working Americans to the funding of Israel and Ukraine respectively, it is grossly misplaced.

What makes you so adamant in making points unsupported by facts? You tell me.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,843 posts)
7. Hi Irish Dem. Yes indeed, the pundits call him "Putler" and Vlad the Impaler for good reason.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 01:18 PM
Sunday

Ukrainian rescuers extinguishing a fire at the site of a 20 Dec Russian missile attack in Kiev. (Photo: Roman Pilipey /AFP via Getty Images)

Putin is destroying the very country he wants Russia to re-absorb one day while punishing the same people he would like to one day rule over. Should Putin win (which he won't), which Ukrainians will adulate him? So far, only Stalin has killed more people in Russia and Ukraine than Putin

This is the third winter Putin has been savaging the Ukrainian infrastructure.

From 2022: "Vladimir Putin wants to make it impossible for Ukrainians to survive winter's wrath. It's partly working"

Links about the recent and previous winter attacks:

https://archive.is/Vr1wz

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/12/20/russia-ukraine-ballistic-missiles-drones-cyberattack-putin/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-winter-cold-power-1.6661362
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