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marmar

(78,101 posts) Tue May 19, 2015, 06:02 AM May 2015

NY: MTA Bus Ridership Plummeting, Statistics Show

May 17--New Yorkers aren't bussing it as they once did, as ridership drops on lines around the city, even on the speedier Select Bus Service, according to MTA statistics.

The drop off in riders in most of the boroughs, attributed by transit officials to traffic congestion and fare hikes, is a stark contrast to record subway ridership that has the MTA and an aging system struggling to keep up.

There were 162,385 fewer daily bus riders in the city last year compared to 2009, when average weekday ridership was 2.2 million a day. Tens of thousands have been ditching the bus in Brooklyn and Manhattan, while there were modest gains on Bronx and Staten Island routes; Queens had a small decline in ridership, according to the MTA figures.

"The traffic makes it worse," said Arnelio Cortes, 59, from Washington Heights. ..............(more)

http://www.masstransitmag.com/news/11971331/mta-bus-ridership-plummeting-statistics-show

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NY: MTA Bus Ridership Plummeting, Statistics Show (Original Post) marmar May 2015 OP

Our busses are comically slow BeyondGeography May 2015 #1

Bus ridership is DOWN, but Subway ridership is UP??? happyslug May 2015 #2

BeyondGeography

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1. Our busses are comically slow

Reply to marmar (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2015, 06:35 AM

May 2015

My favorite maneuver is when the driver slows down at an intersection so he can catch a red light and stick to the schedule. Then sometimes they change drivers in the middle of the route. This also happens in super slo mo.

You do need to take them crosstown. See Hendrix, Jimi, on how that goes.

happyslug

(14,779 posts)

2. Bus ridership is DOWN, but Subway ridership is UP???

Reply to marmar (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2015, 04:36 PM

May 2015

The key sentence follows:

Those who only use the bus are more likely to be older and poorer, with a median income of $39,600, than those who use the subway as well, according to a 2014 MTA survey.

I bring up that sentence for the reason for the drop may be economics in the sense that people have opt for other means of transportation over buses.

New York City is NOT a car friendly town (to many people), thus automobiles are not a real options for most people when it comes to going to and from work (even if they own a car). The article mentions taxis and uber, but then bicycles but ignores people opting to walk.

The comparison years, 2014 and 2009 are five years apart and in 2009 the US was still recovering from the recession of 2008 (and it was a "Jobless Recovery&quot

. In the cases of lower Income people the options are limited, mostly to walking. Given the drop in ridership is restricted to buses and people who ride buses (according to MTA) tend to have less money then people who take the subway (and subway ridership has INCREASED in the same time period) makes this sound like a working class and poor change not among the Upper Middle Class.

Thus several explanation for this drop MAY be the case:

1. The poor and working class has undergone a drop in jobs so they no longer have to travel to and from work anymore (i.e no money for bus fares, or rent for they have no income).

2. To save money the poor and working class have decided to walk to work or the subway stop.

3. The poor and working class have opt for bicycles (Not supported by surveys but possible).

4. The poor and Working class have moved outside the city in search for work.

I would like one of the above be the solution to why the drop, but from what I can read no one knows and that makes this drop worse. If you know the cause, you can address the cause, but if you do not know the cause, you can not address the cause. We need more data, including why people have stop riding these buses.

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