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Dulcinea

(10,409 posts)
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 06:57 AM 10 hrs ago

Oil executives send a blunt message to Americans on gas prices

(Yahoo Finance) "You're hitting tank bottom." That is the phrase one oil industry executive used to describe the state of global petroleum inventories, in a conversation the executive said had already been shared with senior officials in Washington. The same person gave it an unusually specific deadline: mid-to-late June, according to E&E News.

The White House's response was immediate and direct.

"Politico's anonymous sources are wrong," a White House official said, while an Energy Department official added there have been no such discussions about inventory levels, according to E&E News.

Four oil executives told Politico the opposite is true, and at least two of them have now made similar warnings on the record.

https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/energy/articles/oil-executives-send-blunt-message-200700286.html

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Oil executives send a blunt message to Americans on gas prices (Original Post) Dulcinea 10 hrs ago OP
Probably one reason Trump agreed to an Iran ceasefire. Lonestarblue 10 hrs ago #1
Yes, assuming the deal is even finalized and signed, which I am doubtful about LymphocyteLover 8 hrs ago #13
Vance says deal has been 'digitally' signed OKIsItJustMe 5 hrs ago #20
isn't it an MOU, not a final deal? LymphocyteLover 3 hrs ago #22
What to know about the deal to end the Iran war OKIsItJustMe 3 hrs ago #25
Doesn't the US produce oil from it's own sources as well as from Canada and Venezuela? ChicagoTeamster 10 hrs ago #2
Yes it is, but... MarcoZandrini 9 hrs ago #3
75% of US crude imports come from Canada, Mexico, and Colombia and 7% from Saudi Arabia. ChicagoTeamster 2 hrs ago #27
Each source of crude oil has different characteristics. WestMichRad 9 hrs ago #4
"So a given refinery is pretty much locked in to use a single source of crude, or that from a very limited number..." OldBaldy1701E 9 hrs ago #6
They know how to process all of the different grades of oil. They are doing it right now, in other countries. 3Hotdogs 9 hrs ago #9
Deliberate for a financial reason Random Boomer 8 hrs ago #10
It is untrue that U.S. refineries cannot process light sweet crude lonely bird 8 hrs ago #15
Those in power don't want the public know what you explained in your post-it shows how well our Stargazer99 8 hrs ago #16
Say what? Random Boomer 6 hrs ago #18
Tne general public does not know the dynamics of oil supply and therefore easier to manipulate Stargazer99 5 hrs ago #21
It's a pretty complex mixture to clean up WestMichRad 3 hrs ago #24
Yes but oil is priced on the global market LymphocyteLover 3 hrs ago #23
Reading between the lines what the oil industry executives are telling us....... KS Toronado 9 hrs ago #5
This FalloutShelter 9 hrs ago #7
in fact, it is likely to go up a lot because this Iran deal looks like it's going nowhere LymphocyteLover 8 hrs ago #11
EXACTLY!!! Otherwise known as "we're getting richer, and fuck you!" niyad 8 hrs ago #14
I have seen mention several times that gas prices will spike about July 4th... IthinkThereforeIAM 6 hrs ago #19
And big oil profits will stay high. multigraincracker 9 hrs ago #8
ANY statement prefaced... GiqueCee 8 hrs ago #12
Opening the Strait is a very small part of the matter AverageOldGuy 7 hrs ago #17
I don't think so WSHazel 2 hrs ago #26

Lonestarblue

(13,596 posts)
1. Probably one reason Trump agreed to an Iran ceasefire.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 07:27 AM
10 hrs ago

The ceasefire settles very little other than opening the Strait of Hormuz, but it gives the media and everyone else 60 days to forget that Trump ever started this obscene war. Bibi will keep bombing innocent civilians everywhere he can to try to break the ceasefire, but Trump is bored with this war and ready to leave it behind to start a new one by taking over Cuba.

Nothing more of significance will happen in terms of Iran's nuclear goals and the media will just go on treating Trump as a sentient, competent, normal president.

OKIsItJustMe

(22,353 posts)
20. Vance says deal has been 'digitally' signed
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 12:02 PM
5 hrs ago
https://apnews.com/live/g7-summit-trump-updates-06-15-2026#0000019e-cbac-d6a8-a59e-ebec7d770000
By SEUNG MIN KIM

The U.S. vice president disclosed that an interim deal to end the conflict in Iran was electronically signed Sunday ahead of a formal signing ceremony in Switzerland.

The signing ceremony is slated for Friday in Geneva, where Trump landed on his way to attend the Group of 7 summit in France.

“We already signed the deal digitally yesterday, and there’s been no money released, and that won’t change,” Vance said on “Good Morning America.” “Again, this is a performance-based thing.”



“We’ll be releasing the text this week, and what everybody will see is that Iran doesn’t get a dime of money unless they perform their obligations,” he added.

OKIsItJustMe

(22,353 posts)
25. What to know about the deal to end the Iran war
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 02:29 PM
3 hrs ago
https://apnews.com/article/iran-war-us-pakistan-ceasefire-what-to-know-949710df39e3f1033cbb6beda3955814
By MUNIR AHMED and LEE KEATH
Updated 1:40 PM EDT, June 15, 2026

ISLAMABAD (AP) — Iran and the United States are trumpeting their tentative agreement aimed at ending their war as a victory. But so far there is no word on what’s actually in it.

The memorandum of understanding, brokered mainly by Pakistan, starts with the simultaneous lifting of Iran’s closure of the Strait of Hormuz and the U.S. blockade of Iran’s ports, according to Pakistani officials. The two sides will then begin 60 days of negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program and the potential lifting of sanctions, they told the AP, speaking on condition of anonymity because the text is being kept confidential.

That would leave the adversaries more or less where they where they were 3 ½ months ago — before Israel and the U.S. on Feb. 28 launched their war on Iran, which has left thousands dead across the region, triggered a global energy crisis and shook the American economy with an inflation surge.

Much remains unknown, including whether the deal says anything about Iran’s missile program or support for its regional allies like Lebanon’s Hezbollah, two issues that the U.S. and Israel cited to justify the war. Another major question is how it addresses Lebanon: Israel and Hezbollah are not parties to the deal, and their fighting could blow up the arrangement.

ChicagoTeamster

(1,405 posts)
2. Doesn't the US produce oil from it's own sources as well as from Canada and Venezuela?
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 07:30 AM
10 hrs ago

Isn’t the US a net exporter?

MarcoZandrini

(223 posts)
3. Yes it is, but...
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 07:46 AM
9 hrs ago

….US refineries are designed to process crude that is heavier than the crude pumped out of our soil. As a result we sell about 5m barrels a day to companies in other countries.

ChicagoTeamster

(1,405 posts)
27. 75% of US crude imports come from Canada, Mexico, and Colombia and 7% from Saudi Arabia.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 03:25 PM
2 hrs ago

Why would the US supply be dropping so low in response to the Strait? China, India, and some European countries are the most dependent on the Strait. The 4% we get from Iraq is all we're missing out on. Is the US exporting more gas and diesel to other countries to prevent an economic catastrophe? Opec supposedly increased capacity to make up for the loss of the supply through the Strait as well.

WestMichRad

(3,486 posts)
4. Each source of crude oil has different characteristics.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 07:47 AM
9 hrs ago

So a given refinery is pretty much locked in to use a single source of crude, or that from a very limited number of sources, unless they do extensive retooling to adapt to a different source. I’m guessing that as markets developed over time, domestic purchasers for US-sourced crude were not available, so they turned to the export market to sell our crude.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,725 posts)
6. "So a given refinery is pretty much locked in to use a single source of crude, or that from a very limited number..."
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 08:13 AM
9 hrs ago

Wow.

That sounds... deliberate.

The country that invented a non gravity pen cannot figure out how to process the oil right here in the US?

Very... deliberate.

But...

3Hotdogs

(15,689 posts)
9. They know how to process all of the different grades of oil. They are doing it right now, in other countries.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 08:34 AM
9 hrs ago

To process all, or even one different grade here, would require building new refineries with DIFFERENT specifications/equipment. That would need new land to be purchased and permitted. New permits and engineers to design the new refineries. New rail lines to deliver the new oil to the new refinery and on and on.

It is not about Donald sending Vance with a screw driver, a wrench and a couple of nuts and bolts.

That is why the Venezuelan oil that we just captured is not helping with the world supply. That oil used to be processed and sold by Citgo. They don't want any part of rebuilding their former plant. It is too expensive..So only a small part of Venez oil is being pumped. There isn't refining capacity to process it.

Random Boomer

(4,421 posts)
10. Deliberate for a financial reason
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 08:41 AM
8 hrs ago

Refineries are incredibly expensive to build, not to mention it takes years to get them operational. It's simply cheaper in the short-term to export to refineries that are already processing the type of oil you're pumping and import the type of processed oil you need.

The entire global world order of post-WWII was founded on the business efficiencies of trade. This is the world order that Trump is intentionally (antagonizing our allies) and unintentionally (Strait of Hormuz) destroying. Suddenly all that efficiency of trade is becoming a liability.

Stargazer99

(3,593 posts)
16. Those in power don't want the public know what you explained in your post-it shows how well our
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 09:28 AM
8 hrs ago

"superiors" have the public is "managed"

Random Boomer

(4,421 posts)
18. Say what?
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 10:54 AM
6 hrs ago

None of this is a secret. None of this is nefarious in purpose. I'm not some expert in the petroleum industry that has insider knowledge. This is just basic information that is readily available for anyone who pays attention to the news over the years.

Oil infrastructure is a massive investment. Companies don't make that kind of investment unless they absolutely have to do so. This is the reason that few companies were interested in Trump's "triumphant" acquisition of Venezuelan oil. The infrastructure is in bad shape and there was little incentive for any company to invest a fortune and a decade of time rebuilding it, especially in a country that is so politically volatile.

Stargazer99

(3,593 posts)
21. Tne general public does not know the dynamics of oil supply and therefore easier to manipulate
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 12:14 PM
5 hrs ago

and don't tell me corporate America does not manipulate

WestMichRad

(3,486 posts)
24. It's a pretty complex mixture to clean up
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 02:06 PM
3 hrs ago

So the processing can be different, depending on what impurities need removing.

KS Toronado

(24,056 posts)
5. Reading between the lines what the oil industry executives are telling us.......
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 07:50 AM
9 hrs ago

" Don't look for the price of gas to come down any time soon ! "

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,337 posts)
19. I have seen mention several times that gas prices will spike about July 4th...
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 11:18 AM
6 hrs ago

... so wait and see, and look for the best prices and top off your tank.

GiqueCee

(4,973 posts)
12. ANY statement prefaced...
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 08:45 AM
8 hrs ago

... by, "The White House's response" is certain to be a lie. The dregs of humanity currently befouling The People's House couldn't tell the truth about the time of day.

AverageOldGuy

(4,309 posts)
17. Opening the Strait is a very small part of the matter
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 10:00 AM
7 hrs ago

Listening to an oil industry anaylst on CNN this morning. He made it clear that opening the Strait of Hormuz will not result in an overnight drop of gas prices to Trump's beloved $1.85 per gallon. Because:

-- All the ships in the Strait must move. Full tankers, empty tankers, cargo vessels, naval vessels -- all have to go somewhere. The Strait is narrow; ships cannot move in large numbers. How long to actually open the Strait? Who knows.

-- The Saudis and the rest of the MidEastern oil-producing countries cut back their production because of transport disruptions. They will not ramp up production immediately.

-- Insurance companies are raising their rates for maritime insurance for traffic in, around, and through the Strait and the rest of the MIdEast. This will cause some -- hopefully small -- reduction in traffic through the Strait.

Bottom line:
-- The Strait of Hormuz will not "open" any time soon.
-- Oil prices will come down very slowly -- VERY slowly.
-- Trump, Vance, and the rest of the gang will lie and lie and lie.
-- We gained NOTHING for 13 dead soldiers, 500 wounded soldiers, and God-only-knows how many billiions of $$$ wasted.

WSHazel

(890 posts)
26. I don't think so
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 03:00 PM
2 hrs ago

If everyone in the market really thought oil prices were about to spike, they would wait to sell oil. They are not doing that. A few executives are trying to talk oil prices up, but other than some volatility, I expect the world to be in a glut position by September.

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