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teach1st

(5,977 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:04 PM Feb 2018

Talking to my second graders about shootings

It was necessary, I guess, that I had to once again talk to my second graders today about school shooters. That I had to discuss with children who still like to carry little toy cars and stuffed animals and dolls around, who are still working through imaginary monsters under their beds and in their closets, how we would keep safe in the unlikely event that a bad person with bad intent attempt to invade our space. You'd think that after nearly thirty years of teaching, I could get through this expertly, that I could soothe their fears and that then it would be all OK. I tried. I don't think it worked so well. All I wanted to do was to hug my students and cry with them and tell them how sorry I am that it's come to this. We are teaching our students how to survive in case they're attacked and shot at in what should be at their age a safe space, a place of joy and discovery. It is necessary to prepare even the very young for these contingencies. That's what is so horrible. Because we adults can't seem to muster the political and social will to effectively deal with this threat. Sad.

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Amaryllis

(10,086 posts)
1. I was teaching middle school at the time of Columbine, and I remember talking to my
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:19 PM
Feb 2018

7th and 8th graders about it. School shootings were isolated incidents back then; not regular occurrences. I can't imagine how it would be to talk to second graders with the knowledge that it is no longer if, but as the new Boston Globe cover says, just when, where and who. I want to say my thoughts are with you, but I don't feel I can use that phrase any longer. So, you have my heartfelt empathy and gratitude, and hopefully that can buoy you up just a tiny bit.

3catwoman3

(26,331 posts)
4. I wouldn't even know where to begin.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:29 PM
Feb 2018

At the indoor track where I walk when it is too cold/ hot/ rainy to walk outside, on Thursday evenings there is a play session for young kids who look to be about 5-8. They are all "armed" with various play weapons that shoot a variety of harmless projectiles, and there are barriers to hide behind. There are usually close to a dozen kids there, mostly little boys. Given the recent surge in school shootings, It is pretty uncomfortable to watch the relish with which they shoot at each other.

Last night, there were only 5 kids there. I wondered if any of the parents were feeling at all uneasy about the activity, and decided to keep their kids away.

teach1st

(5,977 posts)
5. I know from posts on my social media
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:33 PM
Feb 2018

I know from posts on my social media that at least some parents are considering home-schooling in light of the gun violence. In my area of Florida, there was a drive-by shooting today outside of a high school and many (unfounded so far) alerts at other high schools.

3catwoman3

(26,331 posts)
6. There would not have been much that would have made me consider...
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:43 PM
Feb 2018

...home schooling, but this could have done it. I am very relieved my sons are in their 20s and out of college.

elleng

(138,722 posts)
7. Thank you. My daughter, an Occupational Therapist who works in schools,
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:46 PM
Feb 2018

posted this:

'Fellow school workers-How are we feeling about our lockdown drills if the person on the other side of that locked door has a machine gun and a vendetta? Budget proposal for machine gun-proof doors on all school classrooms?
Binders and folders are hard to come by but I feel like there's some budget space leftover.'

teach1st

(5,977 posts)
8. The worst part about this "talk"
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:51 PM
Feb 2018

The worst part for me about this talk, was the great questions from my class:

What if the bad guy crawls through a window?

We're going to hide in the bathroom so even if the bad guy gets through a window, we'll be OK.


What if he shoots out our bathroom door?
* Crickets *


They know.

msongs

(70,765 posts)
10. these kids have likely seen hundreds or more shootings on fake tv shows. did any of them bring that
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:16 PM
Feb 2018

up, real vs fake?

teach1st

(5,977 posts)
11. The kids didn't bring that up
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:31 PM
Feb 2018

My current school has many aware parents. My impression is that most of my students don't see much violence on TV. I come recently from other schools whose students are largely left in front of the TV or Youtube without much parental guidance. Most of my current students have never seen Facebook. That's not the case in my former schools.

BigmanPigman

(52,672 posts)
12. I had to talk to my 6 year old students after Sandy Hook.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:39 PM
Feb 2018

The same day there was a staff meeting and I had to let the idiot principal know that all of our classroom doors only lock from the OUTSIDE! And only open "out" so they can't even be barricaded. This was the second principal that I had to inform about this little fact within a three year period. How safe are we...not VERY! Get rid of GUNS! The 2nd Amend was NOT written to serve the current technology and culture. Stop using it as an excuse gun enthusiasts. That was 250 years ago. They didn't even have two cans and a string to use to communicate!

March 14th, National walk out off school in protest of guns day. #ENOUGH
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