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JonLP24

(29,373 posts) Fri Dec 7, 2018, 05:26 PM Dec 2018

GOD WRONGFULLY IMPREGNATED TEENAGE VIRGIN MARY WITHOUT CONSENT SAYS MINNESOTA PROFESSOR

A Minnesota psychology professor caught the attention of conservative pundits this week after tweeting that God impregnated the Virgin Mary without consent.

Eric Sprankle, Psy.D, an associate professor at the Minnesota State University, angered Fox News host Tucker Carlson and guest commentator Mark Steyn with his Monday comments.

He wrote: “The virgin birth story is about an all-knowing, all-powerful deity impregnating a human teen. There is no definition of consent that would include that scenario. Happy Holidays.”

He later added: “The biblical god regularly punished disobedience. The power difference (deity vs mortal) and the potential for violence for saying 'no' negates her 'yes.' To put someone in this position is an unethical abuse of power at best and grossly predatory at worst.”

https://www.newsweek.com/minnesota-eric-sprankle-virgin-mary-impregnated-without-consent-minnesota-1248801?amp=1

Sorry for all caps. Newsweek headlines.

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GOD WRONGFULLY IMPREGNATED TEENAGE VIRGIN MARY WITHOUT CONSENT SAYS MINNESOTA PROFESSOR (Original Post) JonLP24 Dec 2018 OP

That's kind of funny. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #1

Isn't the statute of limitations up by now? FSogol Dec 2018 #2

Actually, she did consent. Aristus Dec 2018 #3

But didn't the angel just show up and tell her she was already pregnant? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #6

I am ALL FOR anything that "angers" lil' tucker. nt Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #4

Yeah me too. 47of74 Dec 2018 #7

She consented. "Be it done to me according to thy word." shenmue Dec 2018 #5

His point was that He was in such a position of power no consent was sufficient NickB79 Dec 2018 #8

The Velveteen Ocelot

(121,860 posts)

1. That's kind of funny.

Reply to JonLP24 (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 05:29 PM

Dec 2018

I was under the impression she thought it was kind of an honor. But I'm not a theologian or a psychology professor, nor do I play one on TV.

FSogol

(46,907 posts)

2. Isn't the statute of limitations up by now?

Reply to JonLP24 (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 05:49 PM

Dec 2018

Aristus

(68,780 posts)

3. Actually, she did consent.

Reply to JonLP24 (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 05:51 PM

Dec 2018

"Behold, the handmaiden of the Lord. Be it done unto me according to Thy word."

And the angel departed...

The Velveteen Ocelot

(121,860 posts)

6. But didn't the angel just show up and tell her she was already pregnant?

Reply to Aristus (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 07:57 PM

Dec 2018

So it looks like God sort of snuck up on her. Still, she seemed to be pretty cool with the whole thing.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,047 posts)

4. I am ALL FOR anything that "angers" lil' tucker. nt

Reply to JonLP24 (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:06 PM

Dec 2018

47of74

(18,470 posts)

7. Yeah me too.

Reply to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 07:33 PM

Dec 2018

Of course I replace the T with the F when referring to him.

shenmue

(38,538 posts)

5. She consented. "Be it done to me according to thy word."

Reply to JonLP24 (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:32 PM

Dec 2018

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+1&version=DRA

30 And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.

31 Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus.

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever.

33 And of his kingdom there shall be no end.

34 And Mary said to the angel: How shall this be done, because I know not man?

35 And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

36 And behold thy cousin Elizabeth, she also hath conceived a son in her old age; and this is the sixth month with her that is called barren:

37 Because no word shall be impossible with God.

38 And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done to me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

NickB79

(19,702 posts)

8. His point was that He was in such a position of power no consent was sufficient

Reply to shenmue (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 25, 2018, 09:59 AM

Dec 2018

Kind of like if a 50-yr old pedophile claims a 12-yr old consented to sex (and she confirms it), it's still not legal consent because of the age and power differential.

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