try to get your leg up.

How much of our public taxpayer money will we have into this nitwit fool when it's all added up?

Aren't these people the No Gubmint Interference maniacs?

Benjamin Hornberger -

Ever at the Ready!

Ever at the Aim!

Ever at the *BLAM!* AAAaaaggghh! Somebody help me somebody hellp meeee!

Along with the gun the oversized flags on one's vehicle is a sure sign of someone with a cheeto for a reproductive organ.

I've known idiots who do this, so they can 'draw and fire' faster. They think they are at the OK corral.

See #8...

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

Too bad it is unconstitutional.

simple test...anything you need a license/Gov. permission for/ or to do... is a privilege, not a right.

I am not pro or anti gun. I AM for defining issues clearly.

Read...

The Second Amendment: A Biography

Widely acclaimed at the time of its publication, the life story of the most controversial, volatile, misunderstood provision of the Bill of Rights.

At a time of increasing gun violence in America, Waldman’s book provoked a wide range of discussion. This book looks at history to provide some surprising, illuminating answers.

The Amendment was written to calm public fear that the new national government would crush the state militias made up of all (white) adult men—who were required to own a gun to serve. Waldman recounts the raucous public debate that has surrounded the amendment from its inception to the present. As the country spread to the Western frontier, violence spread too. But through it all, gun control was abundant. In the twentieth century, with Prohibition and gangsterism, the first federal control laws were passed. In all four separate times the Supreme Court ruled against a constitutional right to own a gun.

The present debate picked up in the 1970s—part of a backlash to the liberal 1960s and a resurgence of libertarianism. A newly radicalized NRA entered the campaign to oppose gun control and elevate the status of an obscure constitutional provision. In 2008, in a case that reached the Court after a focused drive by conservative lawyers, the US Supreme Court ruled for the first time that the Constitution protects an individual right to gun ownership. Famous for his theory of “originalism,” Justice Antonin Scalia twisted it in this instance to base his argument on contemporary conditions.

In The Second Amendment: A Biography, Michael Waldman shows that our view of the amendment is set, at each stage, not by a pristine constitutional text, but by the push and pull, the rough and tumble of political advocacy and public agitation.

...with regards to #5.

Liability Insurance is a good idea under normal circumstances, but it could be abused by someone who intends to break the law.

I would have it this way - if you want to own a firearm, you must post a bond of $100,000 (cash or assets) for every firearm you purchase. This amount would be forfeited if any mistake or misuse of the firearm ever happens. If the misuse causes property damage or personal injury to another person, the bond money would be used to compensate their loss. The owner who forfeits the bond would not be able to purchase another bond for 10 years, and would therefore not be able to own another firearm during that time.

But I know this one is real. Just like the others. Here is the scoop: In this land of the so called, "free" we have about 320,000,000 people. That is a whole lot. I think 3rd in the world. So, what that means is... some are smart, and some are stupid. Some know how to act, some are long lost and know nothing. Some are very caring (like our last president) some are the essence of selfishness. (current president)...Some who carry guns are very careful because they know guns are dangerous, and some are very careless because they are stupid.
This fellow who shot himself is...very, very, very, very, .........stupid.............
........................................................................................................thank you

Yes we are 3rd in the world in population...behind India, and ahead of Indonesia. here is link on population:

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/