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CottonBear

(21,615 posts)
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:49 PM May 2013

Advice needed: I want to buy and ipad or ipad mini + protective case for my 4 year old child.

Any suggestions?

I will definitely consider used or older models since I have a limited budget. However, since I want to get the most years possible out of the device, I would consider a brand new product.

From speaking with other parents, I think that the ipad apps for kids are superior. I want him to be able to video phone/face time/Skype with siblings and relatives who live out of town/state and, most importantly, use educational apps as well as have fun and learn. (Mom and dad will also enjoy the new ipad too!) iguy cases have been recommended but I need additional screen protection.

I've not owned a Mac product since the mid 2000's. My son's dad has an i phone. I have an android phone. We have a HP laptop which we both use for business purposes (AutoCad, graphic design & e-mail.) His dad has an older Mac book which is used at his office.

Thanks for any advice/suggestions that you can offer.

CB

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Advice needed: I want to buy and ipad or ipad mini + protective case for my 4 year old child. (Original Post) CottonBear May 2013 OP
I have a Snugg cover for my iPad NV Whino May 2013 #1
Thank you for the advice! CottonBear May 2013 #3
I've never had a problem buying used or refurbished NV Whino May 2013 #8
Good points. Thanks! CottonBear May 2013 #9
Yeah, if you can't find an Apple genius, NV Whino May 2013 #11
LOL! My little man will be the Apple genius in our home very soon! CottonBear May 2013 #12
First, don't get the mini for a 4 year old. NYC_SKP May 2013 #2
Great advice. Thanks! I want my son to be able to use it without frustration. CottonBear May 2013 #5
It's not upgradable but there is a way to use an external storage drive. NYC_SKP May 2013 #7
Excellent! Thanks for the great info and links and pictures! CottonBear May 2013 #10
Thanks, will look for those USB devices nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #19
I'm using an Otter cover on my iPhone. n/t Betsy Ross May 2013 #4
Otterbox covers seem to be the gold standard for i phones! CottonBear May 2013 #6
I would suggest a used top of the line iPad2 Stinky The Clown May 2013 #13
Thanks so much for the excellent advice! CottonBear May 2013 #14
I have gotten iPads used on Craigs List over the years. Stinky The Clown May 2013 #15
Only a little drama. Haven't we all been there! CottonBear May 2013 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #17
I'm going to play devil's advocate here Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #18
I agree, kids that age need plenty of active physical play arikara Feb 2014 #21
I agree. Let the kid remian in physical reality, where humans have been enough Feb 2014 #22
IPad II, but before you do that nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #20

CottonBear

(21,615 posts)
3. Thank you for the advice!
Sun May 5, 2013, 02:29 PM
May 2013

I was leaning toward the larger screen too. Most people that I know who have the new mini are older/retired ladies who carry them in their purses. They want something portable that's a bit bigger than an i phone.

I will check out the link for the snugg pad. The i guy cover is specifically made for kid use with thick rubber bumpers all around but it is not small enough to put in most bags or purses. Maybe an i guy for my child's use and a snugg for on-the-go mom and dad use would work for us.

Another question: what's the best way to buy an i pad: online or at a store or used? We have a local retailer of new Mac products and also a retailer of used products. We live in a very diverse and hip university town so there is probably a large supply of used devices.

Thanks again for your help!

CB

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
8. I've never had a problem buying used or refurbished
Sun May 5, 2013, 04:12 PM
May 2013

More bang for the buck, essentially. Since you are new to the iPad and haven't used Mac in several years, I would buy from a store/person rather than on line, and get some pointers on operation. Also one of the first things to down load is the Tips and Tricks for the iPad.

CottonBear

(21,615 posts)
9. Good points. Thanks!
Sun May 5, 2013, 04:39 PM
May 2013

My co-worker got one for Christmas and her 13 year old grandson set it up and showed her how to use it!

CottonBear

(21,615 posts)
12. LOL! My little man will be the Apple genius in our home very soon!
Sun May 5, 2013, 06:57 PM
May 2013

His dad is a very talented guy but setting up and troubleshooting computers is not in his skill set. So, I am the current IT person in our family. I've learned mostly through adversity and trial and error.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. First, don't get the mini for a 4 year old.
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:59 PM
May 2013

Their dexterity will enjoy the larger play area.

I would get the basic $399 iPad2 with WiFi and 16gigs, no need for 3-G or storage capacity if most of what's done is with apps.

Only if you plan to download and store movies or TV shows will you need more than 16 gigs and then you'll have to switch to a Retina display at higher cost, unless you get a used iPad2.

~~~

CottonBear

(21,615 posts)
5. Great advice. Thanks! I want my son to be able to use it without frustration.
Sun May 5, 2013, 02:39 PM
May 2013

He is not quite dexterous enough to use the mouse or laptop touch pad with good results.

I will have to discuss the the downloading/storage issue with his dad. We will want to use the device when our son is not using it. I had no idea about all of the storage issues. It is my very basic understanding that the memory/storage is NOT upgradeable.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. It's not upgradable but there is a way to use an external storage drive.
Sun May 5, 2013, 03:17 PM
May 2013

I have what was top of the line, 64 gig, when I bought it and in loading one season of 30 Rock in high def, I've used up most of that.

If storage is a concern, you have to either get a more costly Retina edition or a used or refurbished iPad2 with higher capacity, like this:

$499: http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC916LL/A/refurbished-ipad-2-with-wi-fi-64gb-black-2nd-generation

I highly recommend the item above. For $100 more you get 4 times the storage, and I have gotten several refurbished items from the Apple store, no complaints, full warranty.

For additional storage, there are USB drives which can adapt to iPads, though I haven't used them so cannot recommend:

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/04/06/i-flashdrive-for-ipad-and-iphone-review-a-usb-drive-for-ios-devices/








CottonBear

(21,615 posts)
10. Excellent! Thanks for the great info and links and pictures!
Sun May 5, 2013, 04:41 PM
May 2013

It is all a bit overwhelming so I like to do lots of research and get lots of advice before making any decisions.

Stinky The Clown

(68,476 posts)
13. I would suggest a used top of the line iPad2
Sun May 5, 2013, 07:52 PM
May 2013

That will be "current" for a long while. As compared to the iPad 3, it has a slower processor and no Retina display. Beyond that, they're pretty much the same.

As noted above, no need for more than WiFi.

CottonBear

(21,615 posts)
14. Thanks so much for the excellent advice!
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:28 PM
May 2013

I am probably going to get the top of the line I pad 2!

Stinky The Clown

(68,476 posts)
15. I have gotten iPads used on Craigs List over the years.
Mon May 6, 2013, 04:15 PM
May 2013

I have also gotten them new. Honestly, it is hard to tell the difference. Being entirely solid state, they either work or they don't. Cosmetically, the ones I got were essentially perfect.

A used iPad2 is probably in the $350 range. Here's some from across the country.

From the DC area: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/sys/3788713230.html

From NYC area (with a little drama http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/sys/3788676495.html

Chicago: http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/sys/3778408045.html

Los Angeles: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/sys/3780770908.html

CottonBear

(21,615 posts)
16. Only a little drama. Haven't we all been there!
Mon May 6, 2013, 08:16 PM
May 2013

Thanks for the links. I think I'm well on my way to making a good choice!

Hello and thank you from Athens, GA

Response to CottonBear (Original post)

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,219 posts)
18. I'm going to play devil's advocate here
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 06:31 PM
Feb 2014

Why does a 4-year-old need an iPad?

That's the age when they should be working on active and imaginative play and manipulating objects with their hands.

This morning at the gym, I saw a mother with her small son, and the kid was totally absorbed in some game on a tablet (I don't think it was an iPad), so much so that he wasn't looking where he was going and wasn't paying any attention to things like "Here's the elevator." He was so inattentive, that she said, "Three warnings, and I'm taking it away."

My question was, why give it to him in the first place? It felt like the new version of plunking the kid down in front of the TV, only on-the-go.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
21. I agree, kids that age need plenty of active physical play
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 02:31 AM
Feb 2014

A bit of computer time here and there may be ok, even preferable to watching the boob tube; but there are also other considerations. People don't like to hear it, but too much wifi exposure is harmful especially for little kids. And a little one sitting with a tablet on their lap, well that might not be the best thing.
It is considered controversial and you might decide the risk is not there, but at least be informed. Here's a place for you to start.

This page shows the wifi radiation measurements of an ipad and wireless router.
http://www.safeinschool.org/2013/03/ipad-wifi-radiation-captured-on-videos.html

Here's lots more pertaining to children
http://www.safeinschool.org/2011/01/protect-your-children-from-cell-phone.html

In our house, the router is turned off when not using internet, and especially at night. The ipad wireless is also turned off when internet is off and its being used for anything other than internet such as reading. Also, cell phones are off and plugged in far away from bedrooms. That first link shows why.

Best wishes to you

enough

(13,466 posts)
22. I agree. Let the kid remian in physical reality, where humans have been
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:35 PM
Feb 2014

all along. This is how our brains are formed, interacting with the physical world, of which we are a part. Plenty of time for screenworld later.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. IPad II, but before you do that
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:26 AM
Feb 2014

Read the medical advise on screen time and young children.

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