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LAS14

(14,789 posts)
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 07:11 PM Mar 2023

Can I get help here for my Verizon flip phone?

I've spent a half hour trying to get help from MyVerizon support. Hopeless. Why do these companies think AI works???????? Anyway, I've gotten help here for other techy, but non-computer related things.... Here's the question I tried to send Verizon.

I don't receive most of my text messages. Instead I get "Message is not downloaded." When I open it, I see "You received a multimedia message. press Download to retrieve it's content before April 1st." If I go to MyVerizon.com I see that the message was a simple text, not a message with a picture. I've asked the person who has that phone number (as shown in MyVerizon) and they confirmed that the message was a simple text. It so happens that the simple text was part of a group mailing, if that's relevant.

My phone is a flip phone, TCL KaiOS.

I don't mind not getting texts with pictures, but I would like to be sure I get all simple texts. What can I do about this?

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Can I get help here for my Verizon flip phone? (Original Post) LAS14 Mar 2023 OP
how old is your phone nt msongs Mar 2023 #1
A year or two. It's crappy. I got it when Verizon switched to 5g. LAS14 Mar 2023 #2
The previous one was probably set up to receive MMS Effete Snob Mar 2023 #4
Is that something under my control? Or is it an attribute of the phone? LAS14 Mar 2023 #5
It's not under your control Effete Snob Mar 2023 #10
No, I meant whether it is "set up to receive MMS." That must... LAS14 Mar 2023 #12
Yes, it might be. Effete Snob Mar 2023 #14
Another question. LAS14 Mar 2023 #15
How far do you roam Effete Snob Mar 2023 #16
Ah! OK. I don't need roaming. How do you know... LAS14 Mar 2023 #17
It's not you, it's the sender Effete Snob Mar 2023 #3
Great answer, thanks! intrepidity Mar 2023 #6
Most of this seems to apply to sending messages. LAS14 Mar 2023 #7
Yeah... so what happens is this Effete Snob Mar 2023 #9
Yes, it's in the realm of liklihood. I'll find out what device... LAS14 Mar 2023 #13
The sender is using a Galaxy S20 FE 5G LAS14 Mar 2023 #18
You *MIGHT* try this Effete Snob Mar 2023 #11
My husband's old phone quit leftieNanner Mar 2023 #8

LAS14

(14,789 posts)
2. A year or two. It's crappy. I got it when Verizon switched to 5g.
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 07:19 PM
Mar 2023

Didn't have this problem with the previous flip phone.

LAS14

(14,789 posts)
5. Is that something under my control? Or is it an attribute of the phone?
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 07:31 PM
Mar 2023

And are group texts MMS?

tia
las

LAS14

(14,789 posts)
12. No, I meant whether it is "set up to receive MMS." That must...
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 06:59 AM
Mar 2023

... be an attribute of the phone, right? But not under my control.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
14. Yes, it might be.
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 09:13 AM
Mar 2023

You might try the instructions at this Verizon support link:

https://www.verizon.com/support/knowledge-base-239287/

TCL FLIP Pro - Auto Receive Messages

That should set up your phone to automatically do the MMS message retrieval operation.

LAS14

(14,789 posts)
15. Another question.
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 11:02 AM
Mar 2023

I was able to follow the instructions. I won't know if they worked until the "Mail has arrived" message goes out this afternoon. But I had to choose between "with roaming" or "without roaming" when I turned on autoretrieve. I'm not sure what that means. I chose "without roaming," as I'm only interested in this message when I'm at home. Can you advise?

Thanks,
las

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
16. How far do you roam
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 11:05 AM
Mar 2023

It is difficult to escape the coverage of Verizon if you travel within the United States, so it is hard to imagine that the setting is relevant. Try "without" and see if it works when you are at home.

LAS14

(14,789 posts)
17. Ah! OK. I don't need roaming. How do you know...
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 02:04 PM
Mar 2023

... if you're roaming. Will it show on your screen? Our summer place in Maine has erratic cell coverage.

Huh. I just now got a beep and saw "MMS message" in my notifications list. I clicked on it, but didn't see a message, and when I exited and re-entered I had no messages. In the past I'd accumulate a lot of "Message was not downloaded" messages. I'm pretty sure the number associated with "MMS message" was that used by the condo to send the mail notification. So something happened, but not enough.

Next I'll tell the management what's going on and will find out what kind of device they use to send the message.

Thank you for spending all this time with me and my problem. Bottom line, I'm learning a lot about terms associated with cell phones.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
3. It's not you, it's the sender
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 07:24 PM
Mar 2023


It so happens that the simple text was part of a group mailing, if that's relevant.

Bingo.



https://support.sasktel.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/16890/~/understanding-why-a-text-message-may-be-charged-as-a-picture-message



Some wireless devices may convert text messages (SMS) to picture messages (MMS) in certain cases, which can result in you paying the $0.75 pay-per-use Picture Messaging fee for each sent message. This only applies when you don't have unlimited picture/video messaging.

This can happen when you:

Send a text message longer than 160 characters (some devices may split the message into separate 160-character messages and send them as MMS messages; see Text message character limitations)

Have the "Send MMS" option turned on in your phone instead of SMS; or your phone is set to automatically send all messages as MMS by default

Reply to a picture message, even if your reply is text only

Include a subject line in the text message

Send the message to an email address
NOTE: If you're sending a group text message to several people, if even one of them is an email address instead of a phone number, ALL of the group texts could be billed as picture messages


To lower your messaging charges, make sure all of your text-only messages are sent as text messages (SMS). You may find this setting in the Text Messaging or Settings menu of your phone. See your phone’s manual for more instructions.


https://support.three.co.uk/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBISAPI.DLL?Command=New,Kb=Mobile,Ts=Mobile,T=Article,Case=obj(14694)



A text might turn into an MMS because:

one or more of the recipients is being emailed
the message is too long
the message has a subject line
there are pictures or attachments in the message.

On some phones, this simply happens because you are texting multiple people at once. Your phone will usually tell you when it’s converting your message into an MMS.



LAS14

(14,789 posts)
7. Most of this seems to apply to sending messages.
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 07:33 PM
Mar 2023

So is there something the sender can do so I can get these messages? It's a daily message telling condo residents that the mail has arrived.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
9. Yeah... so what happens is this
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 08:23 PM
Mar 2023

I have the same problem with a group of my family. Some are on iPhones and some are on Android. For whatever reason, when I send a group text to them, everyone gets it as an MMS (multi-media messaging system) instead of an SMS (plain text - short messaging system).

You'll notice that all of the articles on this (and there are a lot) mention that it typically happens with group texts.

https://www.android.com/get-the-message/

Any solution to your problem involves modifying the behavior of the sender. Is that within the realm of likelihood?

If so, what sort of device is the sender using?

LAS14

(14,789 posts)
13. Yes, it's in the realm of liklihood. I'll find out what device...
Tue Mar 28, 2023, 07:01 AM
Mar 2023

.... they're using. Is there anything else I should ask?

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
11. You *MIGHT* try this
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 08:29 PM
Mar 2023
https://www.verizon.com/support/knowledge-base-239287/


TCL FLIP Pro - Auto Receive Messages


This will auto-download MMS messages, and you should not have to perform an extra step.

LMK if that works.

You may have to update your OS, but you didn't indicate which version you have:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dumbphones/comments/wuxgt5/tcl_flip_pro_update_now_has_group_messaging/

leftieNanner

(15,742 posts)
8. My husband's old phone quit
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 07:35 PM
Mar 2023

Recently. Turns out it was 3G and Verizon no longer supports that.

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