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Related: About this forumThe UK must invest in a "People's Debate," leading, in time, to a "People's Decision." (Varoufakis)
... Yanis thinking big, and outside the box!The Peoples Debate must address six issues: the British constitution, including the creation of an English parliament or multiple regional English assemblies; the electoral system and the role of referenda; the Irish question, including the possibility of joint UK-Irish sovereignty over Northern Ireland; migration and freedom of movement; Britains economic model, particularly the outsize role of finance and the need to boost green investment across the country; and of course the UK-EU relationship.
To be democratic, the Peoples Debate must take place in regional assemblies, leading to a national convention, where a menu of options is finalized before the next House of Commons translates them into referendum questions that will enable the Peoples Decision by 2022. Thus, the UK government must secure a transition period after the country formally leaves the EU on March 29, lasting at least until the people can decide three years later.
During the transition period, the UK should remain in the EU customs union and the single market, with freedom of movement and full rights for EU nationals in the UK. Then, in 2022, voters can choose whether to stay in the customs union and the single market, exit completely, or apply to re-enter the EU as a full member...
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/british-brexit-debate-democratic-opportunity-by-yanis-varoufakis-2018-12
muriel_volestrangler
(102,742 posts)Yes, it might be great if the UK was the kind of country where people felt like resolving constitutional issues, setting up for England institutions between a county and the UK in size, changing our electoral system, our unbalanced economy, and reexamining our international relationships. I mean, that's not that big a list, is it? Do that by 2022? No problem. How long did it take for us to chuck hereditary peers and bishops out of parliament? Well, we got rid of most of them at the end of the 20th century, having been talking about since the start of it. Not all, mind you ... Yeah, transforming the country in 3 years is no problem at all. Then we'll really be able to get to grips with the European Question ...
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)within which things are falling apart and the centre cannot hold...
All the sense of history, all the decorous debating skill of parliament are on display but its so trivial and tiny compared with the realities that need to be addressed. Not because a potential misogynist slur against the prime minister doesnt matter, or is somehow OK if it was uttered by a socialist against a Tory. But because the hour is truly desperate, and with the executive staggering towards a no-deal Brexit, the Commons appears in this photograph to find its own theatricality more interesting than seeking a way out of the nations terrifying impasse.
This picture shows what we love and hate about parliament its aura of history. To anyone whos considered that long history, things are now looking scary. The scale of our crisis, with Brexit theatening to consume the very way we govern ourselves, resembles the kind of breakdown last seen in the 17th-century civil war. If MPs cant solve this, their fate may be sealed. They will be locked up in their chamber to have their meaningless impassioned arguments while the country move on to what? A citizens assembly, say optimists. But its hard to see how the destruction, by plebiscite, of the worlds most enduring representative system is somehow going to result in a new dawn for democracy. This picture shows us MPs fiddling while British democracy burns.
Jonathan Jones writes on art for the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/20/parliament-mps-john-bercow-commons-brexit