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Saviolo

(3,321 posts)
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 12:52 PM Sep 2015

Article: Because I am Christian, I'm not voting Conservative

From the Toronto Star:
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2015/09/08/voting-conservative-not-the-christian-thing-to-do.html

I will not be voting Conservative at the forthcoming election. Not because I am committed to party politics — far from it — and nor because I am convinced of the righteousness of any particular politicians — I am certainly not — but for one very simple reason. I am a Christian. Yes, I will not be voting Conservative because I am a Christian.

My own conservative credentials began to evaporate more than 18 months ago when I embraced equal marriage and once the door is unlocked it has a habit of opening wide. The journey from legalism to love, or religion to relationship, isn’t directly political as such and it’s dangerous and facile to overly politicize faith. But it’s also downright naïve to think that religion and politics have no mutual hinge. Cue the usual attacks because someone has dared to change his mind, as though evolution is a sin and ideological and spiritual stubbornness a virtue.

In terms of environmental protection and ecological concern the argument is almost axiomatic. Contrary to how even other conservative parties and administrations have behaved, the Harper government has allowed ideology to triumph over scientific reality and has empowered deniers who are not given table-room elsewhere. I interviewed many of them over the years and while they’re not always the big oil puppets their opponents claim, they are generally politicians more than experts.

The poor and marginalized? The government’s taxation policies have reversed a long-standing tradition of redistribution and have encouraged the perception that tax is a burden rather than a duty. We’ve heard too much about “the other” and of the so-called undeserving and this is as un-Christian as it is un-Canadian. We share therefore we are.


I feel like Harper's going to die the death of 1000 cuts with articles like this. Just little things constantly picking away at his base and pushing him further and further out of the mainstream.

I'm still aiming at the NDP slate in my riding, but it's been an NDP stronghold for ages. I'm not changing much where I live, though this will be my husband's first federal election since he gained citizenship (immigrated from the USA).
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Article: Because I am Christian, I'm not voting Conservative (Original Post) Saviolo Sep 2015 OP
This is a good read... Spazito Sep 2015 #1
Sadly Saviolo Sep 2015 #2
To me, Harper's religious supporters are the rabid zealots, who, more often than not,... Spazito Sep 2015 #3
Also... Saviolo Sep 2015 #5
LOL re the shirt... Spazito Sep 2015 #6
I've already got one Saviolo Sep 2015 #7
LOL, I totally get you re age-related t-shirts, some of my favourites are now in my... Spazito Sep 2015 #8
Me three! arthritisR_US Sep 2015 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author arikara Sep 2015 #10
Sorry, my last post arikara Sep 2015 #11
I don't think you came across as rude and they more than earned the knock. nt arthritisR_US Sep 2015 #13
Happy to R&K nt longship Sep 2015 #4
I'm tempted Saviolo Sep 2015 #9

Spazito

(54,852 posts)
1. This is a good read...
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 12:57 PM
Sep 2015

I agree with you that this person is not the only one feeling this way, moderate Conservatives, some religious, who are disgusted with the "Harper government" and their racist, sexist, arrogant actions.

Saviolo

(3,321 posts)
2. Sadly
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 01:05 PM
Sep 2015

I feel like most really conservative right wingers will dismiss this article out of hand as coming from the "ultra-liberal Toronto Star" or whatever axe it is they have to grind right now. But yeah, it was a good little read. Reminds me a bit of Bernie's speech at Liberty University in the States. People are finally coming around (slowly) to the idea that current conservative "values" are not really compatible with Christian values.

But what do I know? I'm just a heathen godless progressive atheist

Spazito

(54,852 posts)
3. To me, Harper's religious supporters are the rabid zealots, who, more often than not,...
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 01:10 PM
Sep 2015

are nauseating hypocrites. Those who actually practice their faith instead of just 'mouthing' it are more like the person in your OP. LOL at your "I'm just a heathen godless progressive atheist". Ditto.

Saviolo

(3,321 posts)
5. Also...
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 01:16 PM
Sep 2015

Forgot to add homo to that.

I should get a shirt printed: "Heathen godless progressive atheist homo."

Spazito

(54,852 posts)
6. LOL re the shirt...
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 01:25 PM
Sep 2015

Harper and his zealots, homophobic, racist, sexist zealots, would have a freaking heart attack if they saw it. Fewer votes for him if that happened, lol.

Saviolo

(3,321 posts)
7. I've already got one
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 01:31 PM
Sep 2015

that has "Fucking Faggot" stenciled across the front. A friend of mine made it when he was making stenciled shirts to sell. It garners one of three reactions:

1) Absolute scorn

2) Hilarity

3) "OMG! Where did you get that!? Where can I get one?"

Though I just about never wear it any more. Worked much better when I was in my 20's. Pushing 40, it's not so clever

Spazito

(54,852 posts)
8. LOL, I totally get you re age-related t-shirts, some of my favourites are now in my...
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 01:49 PM
Sep 2015

memory chest, most don't fit anymore but the great memories from when I wore them are still very much alive.

Response to Saviolo (Reply #2)

arikara

(5,562 posts)
11. Sorry, my last post
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:09 AM
Sep 2015

Came across as rude, I shouldn't go around knocking Christians any more than any other group.

Saviolo

(3,321 posts)
9. I'm tempted
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 02:01 PM
Sep 2015

...to xpost it to General Discussion, because it dovetails with what's happening in the US right now.

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