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mahatmakanejeeves

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Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:34 PM Dec 2020

George Mason said in 1788 that a President should not be granted the power to pardon ...

George Mason, delegate to Constitutional Convention, said in 1788 that a President should not be granted power to pardon because he might "pardon crimes which were advised by himself. It may happen, at some future day, that he will establish a monarchy, and destroy the republic."


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George Mason said in 1788 that a President should not be granted the power to pardon ... (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2020 OP
Mason's objection was countered by James Madison... PoliticAverse Dec 2020 #1
You make it sound so simple, Mr. Madison Cirque du So-What Dec 2020 #3
Like THAT could ever happen. dchill Dec 2020 #4
Well, he's going to be gone so no need for impeachment! Tank God. His buds would still not kick napi21 Dec 2020 #2
They also knew that George Washington SCantiGOP Dec 2020 #5

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. Mason's objection was countered by James Madison...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:38 PM
Dec 2020
“There is one security in this case to which gentlemen may not have adverted: if the President be connected, in any suspicious manner, with any person, and there be grounds to believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him; they can remove him if found guilty.”

Which is why no such limitation made it into the final version of the Constitution.

See: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/07/25/the-pardon-power-and-original-intent/

Cirque du So-What

(27,617 posts)
3. You make it sound so simple, Mr. Madison
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 12:02 AM
Dec 2020

You didn’t count on a corrupt senate overturning the will of the house.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
2. Well, he's going to be gone so no need for impeachment! Tank God. His buds would still not kick
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 12:01 AM
Dec 2020

him out!

SCantiGOP

(14,302 posts)
5. They also knew that George Washington
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 12:25 AM
Dec 2020

was going to be President.
If your model is Washington, something like trump couldn’t be imagined.

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