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sl8

(16,273 posts)
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 06:36 AM Dec 2022

Ohio teacher told principal using students' preferred pronouns violated her religion.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-teacher-told-principal-using-students-preferred-pronouns-violated-rcna62237

Ohio teacher told principal using students' preferred pronouns violated her religion. She was forced to resign, lawsuit says

The Alliance Defending Freedom said the teacher, Vivian Geraghty, should not have been put in a position to choose “between her faith and her job.”

Dec. 17, 2022, 2:17 PM EST
By Minyvonne Burke

A former Ohio middle school teacher said she was forced to resign after she told her boss that she would not address students by their preferred pronouns because it violates her religious beliefs.

The teacher, Vivian Geraghty, is now suing Jackson Memorial Middle School's principal, the Board of Education, and two district employees.

Geraghty, a Christian, worked at the school in Massillon, Ohio, as an English language arts teacher up until her resignation on Aug. 26. Before her departure, she "taught her class while remaining consistent with her religious practices and scientific understanding concerning human identity, gender, and sex," states a federal lawsuit filed on Monday.

About a week before she resigned, two of Geraghty's students requested that she use names associated "with their new gender identities rather than their legal names," the suit states. One of the students also wanted to be addressed by their preferred pronoun. The lawsuit notes that the school had adopted a policy that required teachers to use the preferred pronouns of students.

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blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
1. A week before her resignation would have been August 17th.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 06:54 AM
Dec 2022

Around my area of Ohio kids haven't even started school by then.

JT45242

(2,993 posts)
3. IEP and other meetings, especially for new transgender youth...
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 07:19 AM
Dec 2022

Often occur before school officially starts so that these conversations with the 'responsible' adults can happen in private and awkward corrections can be avoided when other students are around.

All efforts are made to get the adults on board before school starts to minimize the risk of bullying and other negative behaviors towards the transgender youth.

My transgender niece, now in junior high, had these meetings with teachers, counselors, and administration before school started each year for several years when she began to live completely under her new name and identity.

The school was likely using this best practice.

The teacher needs to read the book a little more closely, because I'll bet that she owns at least one poly -cotton blend piece of clothing that she has worn to school, which is, as we all know, a death penalty offense.

 

old as dirt

(1,972 posts)
2. She needs to come up with a better name for her new anti-pronoun religion.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 06:54 AM
Dec 2022

I'm pretty sure that the name she has chosen is already taken.



How does her religion feel about adverbs?

The lawsuit also alleges that the policy is not fairly enforced and that Carter is allowed to avoid using pronouns entirely.


jimfields33

(19,314 posts)
4. I thought the same
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 07:35 AM
Dec 2022

One really great way to compromise is to just use the new name. No pronouns necessary. If she went from Christine to Charles. Just say, “Charles, what’s the answer?” Charles did you understand the question. Why did you forget your homework? So many ways to be respectful and keep the beliefs. I guess since I work with a transgender who has been so incredibly patient with us. I find this whole situation very easy.

Ocelot II

(121,473 posts)
6. Using the new name would also "violate her religious beliefs."
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 09:12 AM
Dec 2022

She would insist on deadnaming the student if the new name didn’t correspond to the “correct” gender according to the teacher’s religion.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,172 posts)
5. Treating others with RESPECT is NOT
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 09:11 AM
Dec 2022

Against one's religion.

This teacher should know to leave her religious views at the door and focus on education. It's not about her and her feelings.

Jirel

(2,259 posts)
7. Students and teachers should take matters into their own hands
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 10:57 AM
Dec 2022

by referring to her as “it,” “they,” and “he” interchangeably, addressing it as “Mr.” at will, etc. When the POS tries to send a kid to the principal’s office, they should say it’s against their religion to refer to him by its chosen pronouns.

David__77

(23,879 posts)
8. So her religion has "required pronouns"
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 11:04 AM
Dec 2022

The flip side of the “religious freedom” coin is not one the right wingers would like. They’re not really into “religious freedom” they’re into “I want it my way.”

bottomofthehill

(8,878 posts)
9. There are plenty of times when teachers don't use students legal names.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 11:45 AM
Dec 2022

Think
Katherine /Katie/Kathy
James/Jim/Jimmy
William/Bill/Billy
Maureen/Mo
Kimberly/Kim
John/Jack
Jacquline/Jacki
Susan/Sue/Suzy

Really, it’s not that hard. Who the fuck cares if James wants to be Sally or Kim wants to be Jack….

yankee87

(2,384 posts)
11. The next Reich wing boogeyman
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 12:10 PM
Dec 2022

Drag Shows must be losing it muster to rile up the mouth breathers. Next up, the pronoun wars

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