Massachusetts crawls so far up your ass before you can get a firearms identification card, they reject guys like George Zimmerman.

laws such as these is dangerous in Massachusetts as in any other state.

Simply because Massachusetts may have much more restrictive gun licensing laws does NOT mean that each and every person with a gun license has the proper amount of training, nor the knowledge and good sense and self-restraint to always exercise that proper judgement at all times.

This is what is wrong with any stand your ground legislation. It places too high a burden upon the state to disprove an claim of self-defense. Confrontations with a firearm which result in a death are most often events without witnesses, and events that transpire within a few seconds. This places the state at considerable disadvantage in charging a certain group of murderers who do their un-witnessed deed and later get to claim a free pass around jail time, simply because of a law like this.

I'm not well versed in how many or what percentage of domestic murders take place with a gun in Massachusetts. I'm sure at least some or a few of those take place with a murderer being a licensed gun owner. It is chilling to think a law would give them a free pass.

It is for fist fights too (when in public).

This also includes Castle Doctrine, something most people seem to support

"An act of lawful defense as outlined in this section shall not be cause for arrest or prosecution." Who determines "lawful defense" especially if the other person is dead and there are no witnesses? Shouldn't there at least be an arrest and/or, at the very least, in the case of a shooting, a confiscation of the gun, along with a thorough investigation? As evidenced in Florida, this law puts police and states' attorneys in the position that, if they arrest someone on probable cause, they may be sued under the wording of this law.

How many people who have, after an investigation, been determined to have protected themselves, their loved ones or their property and gone to prison? Not many. Seriously, this law is a bad fix for something that isn't broken.

It also applies to all forms of self defense, including weaponless. Otherwise if someone attacks you with their fists, you have a duty to retreat and not defend yourself. Note that other statues in FL discuss the underlying requirement for the legal use of deadly force.

The FL statues state if there is not probable cause, the officer can be sued. I wish more states had that (think Occupy and PINAC)

veto the bill if it is passed?

I doubt it will make it that far now.