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elleng

(136,833 posts)
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:32 PM Jul 2019

"He Might've Stayed a Minute": Coal Miners With Black Lung Slam McConnell

for Brushing Them Off in Healthcare Meeting.

"It was a worthless trip, that's the way I feel," said one of the 120 coal miners who traveled to Washington, D.C. to meet with the Republican leader. . .

The miners said McConnell was "rude" during their meeting and quickly left after delivering a brief statement.

"We rode up here for 10 hours by bus to get some answers from him because he represents our state," George Massey, a miner from Harlan County, Kentucky, told the Lexington Herald-Leader. "For him to come in for just two minutes was a low-down shame.">>>

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/07/24/he-mightve-stayed-minute-coal-miners-black-lung-slam-mcconnell-brushing-them?

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"He Might've Stayed a Minute": Coal Miners With Black Lung Slam McConnell (Original Post) elleng Jul 2019 OP
harlan county's history is quite famous for coal miners. no one learns from the past Kurt V. Jul 2019 #1
the entire movie is on youtube. barbtries Jul 2019 #15
I've seen it. a gunshot caught on film is one of a kind. Kurt V. Jul 2019 #17
people living without running water barbtries Jul 2019 #23
my empathy for these ppl overflows. laying down (literally) to go to work. Kurt V. Jul 2019 #27
yeah. barbtries Jul 2019 #32
Very interesting documentary. Thanks. blueinredohio Jul 2019 #44
I'm so sorry. barbtries Jul 2019 #45
Did they actually think McConnell cares one bit about them? TheCowsCameHome Jul 2019 #2
They obviously did, making this trip. elleng Jul 2019 #4
He's damn close to Trump on my all-time hate list. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2019 #13
it is for me. barbtries Jul 2019 #16
He's worse than Trump zentrum Jul 2019 #30
Welcome to your place in the republican party rubes. Fullduplexxx Jul 2019 #3
which is exactly the WRONG way for Dems to speak of these people, elleng Jul 2019 #8
+1 Kurt V. Jul 2019 #24
Would be nice if they were recruitable, but I think that's wishful thinking rpannier Jul 2019 #37
I dont agree by now if youre still with trump i doubt there's any talking you away from him Fullduplexxx Jul 2019 #38
Say it loud and proud, buddy, when you get back home. dawg day Jul 2019 #5
Yes elleng Jul 2019 #10
I hope they share that information around the entire state. The US would be a better place w/o McC flor-de-jasmim Jul 2019 #6
yes elleng Jul 2019 #9
McConnell knows he can take them for granted. keithbvadu2 Jul 2019 #7
Looks like he's amassed enough money that he doesn't care if he's re-elected. Frustratedlady Jul 2019 #11
Seems they did expect him to treat them with respect, elleng Jul 2019 #12
will they vote for him again? barbtries Jul 2019 #14
It's up to Dems to inform and educate them so they WON'T; elleng Jul 2019 #19
McConnell buys his votes or has them kacekwl Jul 2019 #18
So your advice is Dems give up? elleng Jul 2019 #20
I wasn't giving advice to anyone. kacekwl Jul 2019 #39
'No need to fret about votes.' elleng Jul 2019 #40
Evidence exists about this? JudyM Jul 2019 #42
So I assume they will actively work to unseat McConnell in Kentucky? Freethinker65 Jul 2019 #21
WE must work with them so they will do that. elleng Jul 2019 #22
Oh, I agree. But Trump will say he is the miners' best friend Freethinker65 Jul 2019 #25
There are surely Dem strategists who can make a good case, elleng Jul 2019 #28
How badly gerrymandered is KY? fierywoman Jul 2019 #26
Allegedly among the top 10. elleng Jul 2019 #29
Sad. fierywoman Jul 2019 #41
Yet because these kentuckianshave been brainwashed to think the Democratic Party is bad kimbutgar Jul 2019 #31
#DitchMitch riversedge Jul 2019 #33
They should have gone to see Jon Stewart lame54 Jul 2019 #34
My grandfather died of black lung in '71. It is inconceivable to me this is ... marble falls Jul 2019 #35
Sounds like another knee-jerk tax cut for tRump.... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #36
He is too busy to care about them. Mersky Jul 2019 #43
i don't know what can be done get the red out Jul 2019 #46

barbtries

(29,950 posts)
32. yeah.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:34 PM
Jul 2019

that is a really good movie. i saw it probably 5 years ago for the first time and it stays with me. to this day it is timely.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
44. Very interesting documentary. Thanks.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 09:28 PM
Jul 2019

The worst part for me was seeing the miners with black lung,struggling for breath and wasting away to nothing. That's how my father spent the last few years of his life.

barbtries

(29,950 posts)
16. it is for me.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:07 PM
Jul 2019

i think he's more evil than sick. he's packing the courts and refuses to pass laws then engages in shit flinging and propaganda about how democrats aren't doing anything...he's corrupt, corrupt as hell. and so powerful.

i don't say what i want to happen to him because i have this theory that it releases bad energy into the atmosphere when you say certain things aloud.

FFS. his proudest moment was when he stole a SCOTUS seat. he doesn't even try to hide it.

zentrum

(9,866 posts)
30. He's worse than Trump
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:28 PM
Jul 2019

...because he doesn't need attention or validation. Does what he does for pure power and greed. Works in the complete dark, behind the scenes, plotting to control the courts to protect corporations for the next 50 years and beyond. Trump is too stupid to be evil at this level.

McConnell eyes seem to pop wide with enjoyment when he realizes some non-rich people will suffer and die.

elleng

(136,833 posts)
8. which is exactly the WRONG way for Dems to speak of these people,
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:40 PM
Jul 2019

time to speak up FOR them, and recruit them.

rpannier

(24,598 posts)
37. Would be nice if they were recruitable, but I think that's wishful thinking
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 09:14 PM
Jul 2019

In the 2004 Presidential Election, Harlan County voted for the Republican Presidential Nominee for the first time in 32 years; Republican incumbent George W. Bush received 60.2% of the vote, while the Democratic Presidential Nominee John Kerry received 39.1% of the vote.
2008: John McCain received 72.3% of the vote, Barack Obama received 26.1% of the vote.
2012: Mitt Romney won the county 81.2 to Obama 17.2
2016 Donald Trump 84.4 Hillary Clinton 12.75

I know prevailing wisdom is not to write-off anywhere. But Harlan is just not winnable
Money is better spent in Elliott County (NE KY) as they voted for Trump (barely), it was the first time in 80+ years they voted for a Republican for president and the county voted straight Democrat the rest of the way.
Harlan went straight Republican

I just don't think Harlan is recruitable

Fullduplexxx

(8,364 posts)
38. I dont agree by now if youre still with trump i doubt there's any talking you away from him
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 09:36 PM
Jul 2019

And if there is i'll leave it to others. Im going to rub their faces in it

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
5. Say it loud and proud, buddy, when you get back home.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:38 PM
Jul 2019

It would be great for him to lose some of those eastern KY counties where so many of the families have been hurt by black lung.

flor-de-jasmim

(2,162 posts)
6. I hope they share that information around the entire state. The US would be a better place w/o McC
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:38 PM
Jul 2019

keithbvadu2

(40,500 posts)
7. McConnell knows he can take them for granted.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jul 2019

McConnell knows he can take them for granted.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
11. Looks like he's amassed enough money that he doesn't care if he's re-elected.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:42 PM
Jul 2019

Surely, the miners didn't really expect him to welcome them with open arms?

He seems to be doing everything wrong in an election year if he wants to keep his job.

Maybe his finances are askin' for a look-see. Just thinkin'.

elleng

(136,833 posts)
12. Seems they did expect him to treat them with respect,
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:46 PM
Jul 2019

and pay attention to them.

IMO his and his wife's finances should be examined, but even without that, Dems have plenty of grounds strongly to challenge him.

barbtries

(29,950 posts)
14. will they vote for him again?
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:02 PM
Jul 2019

i bet many will. after all he's the republican.

hope i'm wrong, hope he just turned 120 Kentuckians into democrats, but i won't be holding my breath.

kacekwl

(7,648 posts)
18. McConnell buys his votes or has them
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:12 PM
Jul 2019

purchased by lobbyists. No need to fret about votes.

kacekwl

(7,648 posts)
39. I wasn't giving advice to anyone.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:26 PM
Jul 2019

Just pointing out how McConnell stays in office with 20% approval. How you reached give up is beyond me.

elleng

(136,833 posts)
22. WE must work with them so they will do that.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:15 PM
Jul 2019

Of course, there's always the 'give up' option.

Freethinker65

(11,165 posts)
25. Oh, I agree. But Trump will say he is the miners' best friend
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:21 PM
Jul 2019

And that Democrats want to destroy their jobs and families. And that only he and McConnell will bring safe well paying manly jobs back to Kentucky. And they will vote Republican, and lose their jobs, healthcare, and lives while blaming Democrats.

A few commercials with these miners will not be enough. The Democrats will need to borrow from the Trump playbook with a Miners for Democrat X hats and shirts, etc. That crap seems to work.

kimbutgar

(23,607 posts)
31. Yet because these kentuckianshave been brainwashed to think the Democratic Party is bad
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:29 PM
Jul 2019

They'll Re elect Mitch. Yet this would be a great ad against him in 2020. We drove 10 hours and he brushed us off and wouldn’t hear our concerns. It could cause the turtle to be upended on his back unable to right himself.

marble falls

(62,521 posts)
35. My grandfather died of black lung in '71. It is inconceivable to me this is ...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 09:01 PM
Jul 2019

still happening. Absolutely unbelievable.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,606 posts)
36. Sounds like another knee-jerk tax cut for tRump....
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 09:12 PM
Jul 2019

to brag about on the campaign trail. Local Kentucky coverage......

Miners went to McConnell hoping for his endorsement. They left with mixed feelings.
By Rick Childress

See: https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article233016257.html

About 12,000 former miners nationwide rely on the Black Lung Disability Trust Fund to cover costs and make ends meet, but a recent report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office showed that the fund is $4.3 billion in debt, and a tax on coal which funded the trust fund was cut in half in January. Many advocates for the fund worry it may soon become insolvent.
----------
Amid the largest surge of cases in decades, the tax coal companies pay to help miners with black lung disease is slated to be cut in half. "If it's cut, it'd be catastrophic," said former coal miner Kenny Fleming.

McTurtle assured the miners it would be taken care of somehow but neither his or Rand Paul's office would say how. We'll see if the miners can hold their feet to the fire. I wouldn't trust McConnell or Paul as far as I could pick them up and throw 'em.

Ditch Mitch........

Mersky

(5,333 posts)
43. He is too busy to care about them.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 12:11 AM
Jul 2019

Has to reserve his energy for doing the work that really matters to him and his:

Fulfilling promises to the plutocrat donor class to create new, desperate supplies of human capital willing to work miserably for any wage.

get the red out

(13,636 posts)
46. i don't know what can be done
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 05:02 AM
Jul 2019

Coal miners have been shit on since before my great-grandfather worked in the mines, they used to at least know that Rs weren't for working people. I think the Republican Party getting ownership of the most common Christian denominations in the state made the situation hopeless for Kentucky in rural areas. Kentucky went for Bill Clinton way back when.

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