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IA8IT

(5,926 posts)
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 07:27 PM Dec 10

Iowa's senators back in tRump's bidet mode just in time for RFK Jr.s war on corn.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/10/us/politics/rfk-jr-corn-trump.html

Mr. Trump, but the former and future president said he would keep Mr. Kennedy’s environmentalism in check while letting him “go wild” on health.

Mr. Kennedy’s critique is broad and deep. Generous federal crop subsidies of soy, corn and wheat artificially lower their costs, making byproducts like corn syrup cheaper for manufacturers who put it into everything from soft drinks to hot dogs to heavily processed bread. Crop engineering has made American grains more resilient to drought and pests but rendered them “nutrient barren,” he says, and farming practices have loaded grains with pesticides.

High-fructose corn syrup “is just a formula for making you obese and diabetic,” he has said in promotional videos, often pinning blame for the state of American grain production on Democrats and promising to “immediately” take processed foods out of the school lunch program and ban food stamps from being used to buy processed foods and sweet drinks.


Iowa MAGAts Choke on this???

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Iowa's senators back in tRump's bidet mode just in time for RFK Jr.s war on corn. (Original Post) IA8IT Dec 10 OP
This policy problem is bipartisan. No question. MontanaFarmer Dec 10 #1
Ag is a mess. Spill at Red Oak Iowa killed life in river for over 60 miles to Missour River IA8IT Dec 10 #2
I'm from a small rural town... progressoid Dec 11 #4
I hope they do choke on it. progressoid Dec 11 #3
RFKJr is 70% nuts Mopar151 Dec 11 #5

MontanaFarmer

(746 posts)
1. This policy problem is bipartisan. No question.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 07:42 PM
Dec 10

And farmers can not see it. They can't. They've been fed industry propaganda about being more productive and "feeding the world" since Earl Butz and they believe it. I know. I've been fed the same propaganda for years and for a long time I believed it too.
Now, a more uncomfortable question. Can we really effect meaningful change on the industrial food delivery system in the developed world? From the farm, to the factory, to the center aisles of the grocery store, food products are the norm. Our population is still growing. I have read and believe in a lot of the pastoral ag and food writers of modern times, from Wendell Berry to James rebanks to Michael Pollan. Even back to Rachel Carson and Leopold's A Sand County Almanac. But can we really realize what those folks envision, or are we too committed to cheap food at this point? And if we can't, as agriculturalists, consumers, eaters, are we just virtue signaling by trying?

IA8IT

(5,926 posts)
2. Ag is a mess. Spill at Red Oak Iowa killed life in river for over 60 miles to Missour River
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:02 PM
Dec 10




https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/tech/science/environment/2024/03/29/fish-kill-in-nishnabotna-river-spill-said-to-exceed-750000-department-natural-resources-nitrogen/73125495007/

A fertilizer spill this month in southwest Iowa killed nearly all the fish in a 60-mile stretch of river with an estimated death toll of more than 750,000, according to Iowa and Missouri conservation officers.

That is the biggest fish kill in Iowa in at least a decade and the fifth-largest on record, according to state data.

progressoid

(50,787 posts)
4. I'm from a small rural town...
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 01:55 AM
Dec 11

...probably 85% republican. When I go home to visit it's like stepping into a cult. An angry, ignorant cult.

A few people have woken up to the reality of what's happening. But it may be too late. Life here is shit. Literally. We lead the nation in factory farm waste. There are times when your eyes burn driving by some CAFOs
https://littlevillagemag.com/iowa-produces-the-most-factory-farm-waste-in-the-country-new-report-shows/

Corporate AG runs this state. But we aren't alone. Across the river in Nebraska, the governor they just elected owns one of the biggest hog enterprises in the country. https://investigatemidwest.org/2024/07/12/what-to-know-about-nebraska-gov-jim-pillen-and-his-family-business/

Like you said, they been fed this propaganda for so long, I'm not sure how we get out of it. I fear its going to get worse before it can get better.

progressoid

(50,787 posts)
3. I hope they do choke on it.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 01:20 AM
Dec 11

They have been voting against their own interests for decades. It's time they feel the pain of their actions.

Kennedy is 90% bonkers but if he puts a couple wrenches in the federally funded corporate AG system (a system that Iowa farmers say they hate but won't admit they can't live without) I'm OK with that.

Mopar151

(10,190 posts)
5. RFKJr is 70% nuts
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:39 AM
Dec 11

But the 30% ain't so wrong! Untangling grain subsidies around the safety and quality of our food supply is long overdue.
Maybe the Democrats otta start a "Low Hanging Fruit Institute" to advocate for some of this stuff like capping petroleum wells, crazy sugar price supports, or violent cops,

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