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sl8

(16,273 posts)
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 08:44 PM Jun 2023

South Park's creators have eliminated tipping at Denver's famed Casa Bonita. Servers now make $30 ..

https://www.businessinsider.com/south-park-creators-eliminate-tips-casa-bonita-pay-30-hour-2023-6

South Park's creators have eliminated tipping at Denver's famed Casa Bonita. Servers now make $30 an hour — and some are mad.

Lakshmi Varanasi Jun 29, 2023, 5:08 AM EDT

• Casa Bonita, a 50-year-old Mexican restaurant in Colorado, reopened after a $40 million renovation.
• South Park creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker bought the joint, which was featured in their show.
• They eliminated tips, and are now paying $30 an hour. Some staff members are mad about that.

[...]

Days before opening, though, the restaurant reportedly asked employees to sign new contracts that offered hourly wages for servers and bartenders of $30 an hour, according to Axios Denver. The catch was that they would no longer receive tips to supplement their wages, Axios reported. (The minimum wage in Colorado is $13.65, according to the state's labor department.)

Employees were given one day to decide whether they wanted to sign the new contract or quit, Axios said, citing a conversation with one employee, and documents provided by another employee, who both asked to remain anonymous due to a confidentiality agreement.

[...]


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South Park's creators have eliminated tipping at Denver's famed Casa Bonita. Servers now make $30 .. (Original Post) sl8 Jun 2023 OP
Why not? vercetti2021 Jun 2023 #1
Tips can be hundreds of dollars a night in a place like this. jimfields33 Jun 2023 #3
When you work in a coffee shop vercetti2021 Jun 2023 #7
Of course. But they are going to a place where people will earn less. jimfields33 Jun 2023 #8
If you were making more than that with tips (which likely weren't taxed) you might. MichMan Jun 2023 #4
The article says they thought they were getting about $15/hr plus tips. nt sl8 Jun 2023 #6
I would've signed the contract gladly back Haggard Celine Jun 2023 #2
Aren't the customers the ones ultimately paying the workers either way? MichMan Jun 2023 #5
Not exactly. Haggard Celine Jun 2023 #9
What other revenue streams do restaurants have other than customers spending on food & drink? MichMan Jun 2023 #11
As things are, they're dependent on the customers to Haggard Celine Jun 2023 #13
It's going to depend how much they raise the prices MichMan Jun 2023 #14
And you had to work hours with no customers viva la Jun 2023 #10
Yes, good point. Haggard Celine Jun 2023 #12

vercetti2021

(10,403 posts)
1. Why not?
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 08:47 PM
Jun 2023

You'd rather get paid 2.15? Stone and Parker are good guys paying 4x the normal paycheck

jimfields33

(19,314 posts)
3. Tips can be hundreds of dollars a night in a place like this.
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 09:02 PM
Jun 2023

If they work 8, they do get 240 for the night (totally taxable). Yes cash tips are supposed to be counted towards taxes, but….. I’d rather the tips in a place like this. Now Denny’s? I’d take the 30 an hour.

jimfields33

(19,314 posts)
8. Of course. But they are going to a place where people will earn less.
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 09:17 PM
Jun 2023

Why do they do thing backwards? The friends should have started at a lower scale place and give 30 bucks an hour no tips. A coffee shop would be perfect.

Haggard Celine

(17,044 posts)
2. I would've signed the contract gladly back
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 09:01 PM
Jun 2023

when I waited tables and bartended. Working for tips can really suck, depending on who your customers are. The waiters and bartenders don't have to worry about how much to claim in tips now. It really sucks to be dependent on the customers' generosity. And restaurants shouldn't be making the customers pay their workers.

MichMan

(13,553 posts)
5. Aren't the customers the ones ultimately paying the workers either way?
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 09:04 PM
Jun 2023

Where else would the money be coming from?

Haggard Celine

(17,044 posts)
9. Not exactly.
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 09:22 PM
Jun 2023

Now customers are depended upon to add an extra amount to pay the workers' wages. A lot of people tip as little as they can get by with. Sometimes they don't tip at all. When they don't tip, you don't have a base wage to fall back on. Whether these customers would have tipped the server or not is a moot point now. Those staff members will be working solely for the owners now. That way, when a customer expects a lot of extra shit for nothing, you just have to worry about your boss's interests. I predict there will be a lot less bullshit to deal with at that place.

MichMan

(13,553 posts)
11. What other revenue streams do restaurants have other than customers spending on food & drink?
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 09:30 PM
Jun 2023

I worked in the automotive supply base in manufacturing for my career. All of our revenue ultimately came from people buying cars, trucks, and replacement parts for them, even though we only manufactured parts and not vehicles.

Haggard Celine

(17,044 posts)
13. As things are, they're dependent on the customers to
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 09:42 PM
Jun 2023

pay their staff for them. Customers have to add extra money to their check to pay the staff for doing their jobs. They won't have to worry about that anymore. Sure, the restaurant lives off it's customers, but if they expect the customers to pay their staff, they're setting up a situation where the staff have divided loyalties between the customers and the managers. People expect extra things sometimes for their tips, and it can cost the restaurant money. Now they'll just do what the boss says and that will be it. If there's a problem, they can talk let the manager handle it.

MichMan

(13,553 posts)
14. It's going to depend how much they raise the prices
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 09:50 PM
Jun 2023

If an average tip is 20%, and the menu prices go up an average of 15%, then customers will be on average actually paying less than they did before. On the other hand, if prices are raised 25%, than it will cost the customers more than they were paying before.

Either way, it is ultimately the customers who pay the wages

viva la

(3,854 posts)
10. And you had to work hours with no customers
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 09:27 PM
Jun 2023

You might earn a lot for two hours at lunch, and then it'll be 4 hours at $2.50 an hour.

Haggard Celine

(17,044 posts)
12. Yes, good point.
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 09:31 PM
Jun 2023

We also had all sorts of side work to complete before we could leave. Cleaning, rolling silverware, and whatever else your boss wants you to do for the day is expected. You're only making $2+ per hour while you do that shit.

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