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Upthevibe

(9,249 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 02:01 PM Oct 15

Prop 33

CA voters.....
I'm wondering about Prop. 33.....The flyer I received from my Rep. (Al Muratsuchi) has Yes on all of the props except 36 - That one says No. And on Prop. 34, there's no recommendation.

Can anyone provide me with feedback? Thanks

I'm posting here as well as GD.

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Lovie777

(15,211 posts)
1. Tons of commercials for No on 33...................
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 02:07 PM
Oct 15

I'm voting yes, and no on 34, yes on 35.................

Retrograde

(10,729 posts)
2. The No on 33 ads come from developers
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 02:14 PM
Oct 15

who falsely claim that it will prevent them from building affordable housing - I can point to a town near me that has rent control where a developer is doubling the number of apartments and keeping rents the same for existing tenants (it's taking more time and involves some people moving twice in the course of a few years, but it can be done). I voted Yes on 33, No on the other 2 - one because I oppose earmarking and one because the legislature IMHO should be taking the lead here. Since I've already sent in my ballot and recycled all my materials I don't remember which was which.

usonian

(14,592 posts)
3. The CA Democratic Party has endorsements here:
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 02:35 PM
Oct 15

It's a PDF but you can click on each proposition to get more info.

Clicking on 33 goes here: https://yeson33.org/
The party has no recommendation on 34. No link.

In an earlier thread
https://democraticunderground.com/100219553365

there's a link to this matrix (interesting)
https://igs.berkeley.edu/library/california-ballot-proposition-guides/november-5-2024-general-election/november-5-2024

The State Democratic Party endorsements generally align with the ACLU and Teacher's Union.

While they are neutral on 34, not that the GOP, Chamber of Commerce, and Jarvis group are in favor.
That tells me all I need to know.

Here's a screensnap of part (I could only snap so much, but I think it gives you all you need without going into great detail)



Want great detail?
https://voterguide.sos.ca.gov/propositions/

https://calmatters.org/california-voter-guide-2024/propositions/

Cal Matters pulls no punches on prop 34

Prop 34
Require certain providers to use prescription drug revenue for patients

Sponsored by the trade group for California’s landlords, this measure is squarely aimed at knee-capping the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, which has been active in funding ballot measures (see Prop. 33).


Here's what they say on 33

What would it do?

Many cities, including San Francisco and Los Angeles, limit the amount a landlord can raise the rent each year — a policy known as rent control. But for nearly 30 years, California has imposed limits on those limits, via a law known as Costa-Hawkins. Cities cannot set rent control on single-family homes or apartments built after 1995. And landlords are free to set their own rental rates when new tenants move in.

If Proposition 33 passes, that would change. Cities would be allowed to control rents on any type of housing – including single-family homes and new apartments, and for new tenants.
Why is it on the ballot?

Nearly 30% of California renters spend more than half their income on rent — higher than in any other state except Florida and Louisiana, according to the Public Policy Institute of California.

To change that, tenant advocates have been fighting Costa-Hawkins for years, but so far, without success. They tried to overturn it with ballot measures in 2018 and 2020. Lawmakers also tried with legislation. While those efforts failed, Gov. Gavin Newsom in 2019 signed a law limiting annual rent increases statewide to 5% plus inflation.

Supporters of Prop. 33 say that doesn’t go far enough. They hope this finally is the year to upend the decades-old rules controlling rent control. But landlord groups opposing the idea tend to have deep pockets, and have been willing to spend a small fortune to convince voters that rent control is not the answer to the state’s housing crisis.


Just passing along. Picking up my ballot at the PO Box today.

IcyPeas

(22,732 posts)
4. "real estate industry opponents are, yet again, spending big to kill the measure"
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 02:37 PM
Oct 15
Starting to feel like you’re stuck in a weird California electoral time loop, voting on the same issue year after year?

That’s understandable. Similar measures have already appeared on the ballot twice, in 2018 and 2020. Both times, California voters rejected them by wide margins.

Proponents believe the third time might be the charm. But real estate industry opponents are, yet again, spending big to kill the measure.

The article has this list of who's supporting and who's opposing. Look at what the oppose people are spending. (The list is much longer in the linked article). I voted yes on it.



https://laist.com/news/politics/2024-election-california-general-proposition-33-rent-control

Lucy

(243 posts)
11. Thanks!
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 10:58 AM
Oct 17

This thread is great. I was going to ask the same.
Those are the propositions I wasn’t sure of.
I really appreciate all the links.

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