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Demovictory9
(33,965 posts)chia
(2,401 posts)for a vacation. We have a very large Middle Eastern community here in San Diego County, particularly East County, where the Cajon Valley school district is located.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)This poorly reproduces story fails to note in the thread OP that the students in question are Afghani immigrants to the US who were visiting family who work with the US military.
There appears to be an agenda-driven interest in portraying this as some sort of lark - as if it were random students on a pleasure trip. This is not that.
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)Learning trip. These types of trips are popular among high school students looking for something meaty to put on their college application. My son did one of these in Ecuador. His friend did a service learning trip to Kenya.
chia
(2,401 posts)Other sources mention they were traveling to see extended family.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5594882001
The families had traveled separately to Afghanistan for summer vacations to see their grandparents, cousins and other relatives. Most of the families came to the United States on a special immigrant visa after having worked for the U.S. government or U.S. military in Afghanistan, officials said. The visa allows in only the person and their spouse and children.
brush
(58,022 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5594882001
The families had traveled separately to Afghanistan for summer vacations to see their grandparents, cousins and other relatives. Most of the families came to the United States on a special immigrant visa after having worked for the U.S. government or U.S. military in Afghanistan, officials said. The visa allows in only the person and their spouse and children.
JohnSJ
(96,810 posts)agingdem
(8,541 posts)and how about Syria...always a destination...
JohnSJ
(96,810 posts)agingdem
(8,541 posts)and what parent would allow their child to travel to an occupied war zone...I know 20 years in Afghanistan is more or less a forgotten war but did mom and dad get the least bit suspicious when a Kevlar vest was on the list of need to bring items???
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)..and then consider what you just wrote.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5594882001
The families had traveled separately to Afghanistan for summer vacations to see their grandparents, cousins and other relatives. Most of the families came to the United States on a special immigrant visa after having worked for the U.S. government or U.S. military in Afghanistan, officials said. The visa allows in only the person and their spouse and children.
agingdem
(8,541 posts)the chaos involved...I understand wanting to see family but not when this draw down of troops and the rapid encroachment of the Taliban was obvious and in real time...
jrthin
(4,965 posts)schedule a vacation.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Some folks decided to backpack along the Iraq - Iran border.
Hey, why not ? Sounds like a fun trip. What could go wrong ?
They were captured by Iranian troops.
I don't recall how it ended.
Mr.Bill
(24,866 posts)until the were let go as some kind of diplomatic bargaining chip.
Deuxcents
(20,142 posts)And their parents will get an up close visit to Afghanistan. Who is responsible for this trip?
magicarpet
(16,955 posts)If so,... their heads may have been chopped.
keithbvadu2
(40,500 posts)chia
(2,401 posts)planned to be back before school started here on Aug. 17.
Maybe have a little compassion for them, anyone?
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)The internet outrage beast has no need to understand facts.
The cartoon version of this story is so much better than the more complicated truth.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)chia
(2,401 posts)I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I lived in San Diego for 20 years.
Been to El Cajon a zillion times.
chia
(2,401 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Apparently now the people are dumber?
chia
(2,401 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)And they went back on vacation?
Yeah, that's dumb.
chia
(2,401 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)They got out of there once as refugees.
Then decided, what the heck,
let's go back on vacation.
Now we have to get them out of there a second time.
Vacationing in Afghanistan at this time was a dumb thing to do.
It's been a war zone for years and our troops are leaving.
But what the heck, let's go back on vacation?
And let's take the kids.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5594882001
The families had traveled separately to Afghanistan for summer vacations to see their grandparents, cousins and other relatives. Most of the families came to the United States on a special immigrant visa after having worked for the U.S. government or U.S. military in Afghanistan, officials said. The visa allows in only the person and their spouse and children.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)And now look at their situation.
orleans
(35,249 posts)agingdem
(8,541 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Because thats who they work for.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5594882001
The families had traveled separately to Afghanistan for summer vacations to see their grandparents, cousins and other relatives. Most of the families came to the United States on a special immigrant visa after having worked for the U.S. government or U.S. military in Afghanistan, officials said. The visa allows in only the person and their spouse and children.
blm
(113,852 posts)That seems an incredibly odd decision to make on Aug16, under the circumstances.
chia
(2,401 posts)blm
(113,852 posts)to leave? Just trying to figure out the thinking that led to such an odd choice.
chia
(2,401 posts)original articles at the LAT and The Hill.
Thanks.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Our troops and resources have to fix their stupidity?
Oh, and have compassion while doing it.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Who decided to go back home and visit?
And now we have to get them out a second time,
and have compassion while doing it?
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Who decided to go back home and visit?
And now we have to get them out a second time,
and have compassion while doing it?