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Tikki

(14,799 posts)
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 03:44 PM Apr 2017

5 Punk Rockers Explain Why the Alt-Right's 'Punk Movement' is Garbage...

By Michael Tedder
March 15, 2017

First, the alt-right stole Pepe the frog from cartoonist Matt Furie. Then, they stole enjoying milk from the calcium-deficient. Now, they’re trying to steal punk. Members of the alt-right have of late made the argument that “conservatism is the new punk” and that gadflies like Alex Jones and Milo Yiannopoulos are the modern day truth-telling equivalents of the Sex Pistols and the Clash, pushing back against social justice warriors and political correctness culture. In their eyes, their old, retrograde ideas—which inevitably manifest as fear and outrage at attempts to curb white male privilege—have suddenly become avant-garde because of…safe spaces or something.

As if.

Since it’s impossible to physically punch this loathsome idea in the face, Playboy reached out to some of our favorite young punks and some members of the old guard to talk about what punk really means. Many of our contributors pointed out that even though as a cultural movement it has always had its flaws and problems with representations, punk is still a place where people threatened by the right’s crusade can find strength, safety and community.



Alice Bag, who has actually done the work of being a punk rock star, recently said via Facebook: “Punk has been portrayed as music by and for angry white males, but in its inception, it was a rebellion against all rock cliches. Gender, ethnic, sexual and class taboos were all challenged by our early punk community and that is a story which is not very often told. People of color, queer folk, women—all were present from the very beginning of Punk.”

more at link:http://www.playboy.com/articles/punk-rockers-on-the-alt-right?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Keywee&utm_content=non-bunnies&kwp_0=365756

In the 70's Punk was defined as Leaderless, Lordless and Loud...doesn't jive with alt-right, at all.

I just simply find the conservatives..horrid, useless people...

Tikki

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5 Punk Rockers Explain Why the Alt-Right's 'Punk Movement' is Garbage... (Original Post) Tikki Apr 2017 OP
I remember when punk was starting. Remember Adam Ant? kydo Apr 2017 #1
Many newer bands still ID as Punk... As in synth Punk or tech Punk... Tikki Apr 2017 #2
Nazi punks fuck off! kysrsoze Apr 2017 #3
"You'll be the first to go..." Iggo Apr 2017 #6
Any discussion about punk music... ADX Apr 2017 #4
Agreed.... Tikki Apr 2017 #5
As a former member of a punk band I must say... Koch Ebola Apr 2017 #7
Even by 1980 the LA punk band scene still felt like inclusion was a priority... Tikki Apr 2017 #8

kydo

(2,679 posts)
1. I remember when punk was starting. Remember Adam Ant?
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 04:08 PM
Apr 2017

Some how I think the only thing that really the racist/white/new punk and punk rock in general might have semi in common is anger. Other then that the two couldn't be further apart. Besides, what was punk in the 70's and 80's is now labeled alternative rock. I love alternative rock.

Tikki

(14,799 posts)
2. Many newer bands still ID as Punk... As in synth Punk or tech Punk...
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:10 PM
Apr 2017

Alternative and Indie are certainly legit use for any band who is or wants that label.
There are just so much awesome new bands and singers out there now, but posuers are still
posuers and to co opt a real social movement makes them losers.

Tikki

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
4. Any discussion about punk music...
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:11 PM
Apr 2017

...that doesn't include bands like Black Flag, The Misfits, and especially Bad Brains, isn't a real discussion.

 

Koch Ebola

(831 posts)
7. As a former member of a punk band I must say...
Fri Apr 28, 2017, 12:22 PM
Apr 2017

We were always the Ult.Left way back when it wasn't cool to be associated with the so-called left. This was during the Reagan era. Matter of fact our band was involved with an international organization called Rock Against racism. Back then we had our reactionary punks such as Skin Heads and Oi hardcore. Below is evidence of our songs. This was rebel music for rebels

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvLIwTN57EwH_ntC-mnQ1wg/videos

Tikki

(14,799 posts)
8. Even by 1980 the LA punk band scene still felt like inclusion was a priority...
Fri Apr 28, 2017, 01:51 PM
Apr 2017

Your band had a really great sound.


Tikki

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