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LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 03:35 PM Friday

Finished this oil painting today. Still trying to learn oil painting. Might take a few decades ๐Ÿคฃ

Thank you to anyone who looks. ๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™
It looks a bit better in person, I never seem to figure out how to photograph my art work so it looks just like real life.


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Finished this oil painting today. Still trying to learn oil painting. Might take a few decades ๐Ÿคฃ (Original Post) LiberalLoner Friday OP
I like it. Basso8vb Friday #1
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Friday #23
Very nice. I think not making 'mud' is harder with oils. But I haven't painted in years. sinkingfeeling Friday #2
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. I've had to work on not overblending, that is one of my big mistakes. LiberalLoner Friday #24
Looks good to me !!!! Karadeniz Friday #3
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Friday #25
Nice! I like it! Diamond_Dog Friday #4
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. It's hard with just an iPhone or iPad. I think professional artists LiberalLoner Friday #26
Really pretty! StarryNite Friday #5
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Friday #27
A suggestion from an old pro... GiqueCee Friday #6
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. That's very helpful, I see what you mean, I should have made the top part of the mountain LiberalLoner Friday #28
Softening the edges in the background will also help make the space recede. femmedem Saturday #54
Thank you so much, that's excellent advice! ๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™. Sometimes I forget all the little things in the heat of painting, LiberalLoner Saturday #60
One of the nice things about oils... GiqueCee Saturday #57
Watercolor doesn't require as many additives, it's true, and is spontaneous, LiberalLoner Sunday #67
Nice! Evolve Dammit Friday #7
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Friday #29
Very nice. Better than I was ever able to do. Joinfortmill Friday #8
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. I'll bet you are a lot better than you give yourself credit for! LiberalLoner Friday #31
shades of cezanne et tu Friday #9
I thought Cezanne also. erronis Friday #13
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. I am blushing! LiberalLoner Friday #33
Thank you very much! ๐Ÿ’™. You are so so kind! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Friday #32
Really nice! bif Friday #10
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™.... LiberalLoner Friday #34
Love the landscape painting ! lucca18 Friday #11
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Saturday #38
Really LOVELY, LiberalLoner! calimary Friday #12
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. I would have flunked out of art school if I had tried to go! LiberalLoner Saturday #39
Not if you'd been in UC Irvine's art department. calimary Sunday #64
OMG that is such an awesome story, thank you for sharing it! I was laughing so hard! I'm glad LiberalLoner Sunday #65
Let you in on a little secret. calimary Sunday #69
Oh, that is lovely PatSeg Friday #14
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. As long as I don't expect too much as far as results go, it's enjoyable. I just LiberalLoner Saturday #40
Oh yes, that is good to remember PatSeg Sunday #68
I like it. LoisB Friday #15
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Saturday #41
Reminds me of Irish landscapes KT2000 Friday #16
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. I will have to look up Irish landscapes now! LiberalLoner Saturday #42
Nice! Permanut Friday #17
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Saturday #43
Nice IbogaProject Friday #18
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Saturday #44
You are mastering the shades ..................between light and dark..........keep up the good work............ turbinetree Friday #19
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Saturday #45
Your Welcome That is the key for every artist to master the shades . When you start using a smaller brush you will see turbinetree Saturday #63
That's true, they say if you get the values exactly right, you can use any colors you want.... LiberalLoner Sunday #66
your welcome enjoy painting you are very good............. turbinetree Monday #70
Nice job Nululu Friday #20
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Saturday #46
you're coming along just fine. The painting is well composed, the brushword, particularly in ... marble falls Friday #21
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. Yeah, I need to put in those hours of practice...depth is something I struggle with, LiberalLoner Saturday #47
You got the concept, you just need to refine your stokes, I'm 74. I'm still working on my hand ... marble falls Saturday #56
Thank you so much for encouraging me and being so kind! ๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Saturday #59
beter than what i can do. AllaN01Bear Friday #22
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Saturday #48
Beautiful! SheltieLover Friday #30
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. I do find oil paints and acrylic paints to be very forgiving. LiberalLoner Saturday #49
Imo, oil is much more forgiving as it literally never dries. SheltieLover Saturday #58
Very nice, I really like the colors. Ocelot II Friday #35
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. Yeah the shine is a problem, I try to photograph at an angle, from above...your LiberalLoner Saturday #50
I like that, a lot. Think. Again. Friday #36
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Saturday #51
I like it - it has a really nice feeling to it electron_blue Friday #37
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Saturday #52
I think that is lovely. madaboutharry Saturday #53
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Saturday #61
Beautiful! mwmisses4289 Saturday #55
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Saturday #62
Very beautiful Beringia Monday #71
Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™ LiberalLoner Monday #72

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
24. Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. I've had to work on not overblending, that is one of my big mistakes.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 08:18 PM
Friday

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
26. Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. It's hard with just an iPhone or iPad. I think professional artists
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 08:19 PM
Friday

Use real cameras and special lighting set ups and so on.

GiqueCee

(2,049 posts)
6. A suggestion from an old pro...
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 05:19 PM
Friday

... tone down the background mountains. It helps to convey depth and distance. Distant images are always muted when light is refracted by moisture in the air.

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
28. Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. That's very helpful, I see what you mean, I should have made the top part of the mountain
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 08:20 PM
Friday

Range especially, lighter and with more bluish-gray. I will try to fix that.

femmedem

(8,500 posts)
54. Softening the edges in the background will also help make the space recede.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 06:23 AM
Saturday

You've done that beautifully in some areas. For example, the low clouds--which are more distant than high clouds--have very soft edges. But the top of the mountain in the mid distance is as crisply defined as anything in the foreground.

Please know I wouldn't offer a suggestion if I didn't have such respect for your artistic talent and skill.

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
60. Thank you so much, that's excellent advice! ๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™. Sometimes I forget all the little things in the heat of painting,
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 05:55 PM
Saturday

Itโ€™s like, Iโ€™ve watched hundreds of hours of videos and I should know this stuff but I always forget this or that! Thank you! ๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™

GiqueCee

(2,049 posts)
57. One of the nice things about oils...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:11 AM
Saturday

... and acrylics, is that you can fix things. Japan dryer, and other additives for oils shorten the time you have to wait before you an overpaint. With heavy impasto, you can grow a beard before you can tweak it!
I've worked in all mediums, but I much prefer watercolor. It's less forgiving, but I like the spontaneity it affords you.
The weather's miserable here today, so maybe I'll putz around some more figuring out how to post images, and show some of my work. I'm 2 years and change shy of 80, so I'm a bit technologically challenged, but my lexicon of profanities is deep, so I'll overcome the frustration eventually. Wish me luck!
And keep working. You've got a distinctive style, and as you refine it with practice, you'll enjoy the satisfaction. It's valuable to study the work of artists you admire; they'll have a lot to teach you.

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
67. Watercolor doesn't require as many additives, it's true, and is spontaneous,
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 08:16 AM
Sunday

Itโ€™s true, but it is so challenging, and stretching the paper is kind of a hassleโ€ฆalthough I like that watercolors are much easier on your brushes, they last foreverโ€ฆ.i have some nice squirrel quill brushes I will have until I die, hopefullyโ€ฆhad them for decades alreadyโ€ฆ

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
31. Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. I'll bet you are a lot better than you give yourself credit for!
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 08:22 PM
Friday

et tu

(2,083 posts)
9. shades of cezanne
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 05:33 PM
Friday

very nice and i always love oils because
the oil fairy comes overnight and the next morning
my paintings always looked better! could just have been
getting a better perspective but i like thinking oils are
magical

erronis

(18,646 posts)
13. I thought Cezanne also.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 05:49 PM
Friday

Photorealism is nice, but the ambiguity of objects painted like this is more appealing, at least to me.

bif

(25,036 posts)
10. Really nice!
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 05:37 PM
Friday

I tried working in oils but I don't think I have the patience. It looks like you certainly do.

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
34. Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™....
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 08:29 PM
Friday

Oil painting is a million times easier, watercolor is devilishly hard to do and so unforgiving!

Oil painting doesnโ€™t take too long to dry if you use some Liquin or a quick drying medium like that. I did this painting over two days, sessions of about two hours each I think? And the first layer had dried by the next day. If you have a little space for a dish rack or something to set your paintings in while they dry, it all kind of works out, you just keep juggling a few paintings at a time, I think.

Iโ€™ve watched so many videos now and read blogs and books and it feels like there are quite a few different approaches to oil painting. I think ala prima is quicker than the traditional Flemish method of painting a grisaille and then other thin translucent layers on top.

But the traditional method gives such beautiful luminous results, especially on portraits.

calimary

(85,674 posts)
12. Really LOVELY, LiberalLoner!
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 05:47 PM
Friday

So says this art major! Hey, I got tired of studying at the very demanding high school I attended. Worked sooooooo hard to make grades! Lost count of the all-nighters I spent studying. Then I got to college and discovered the radio station, and that was all she wrote.

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
39. Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. I would have flunked out of art school if I had tried to go!
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 05:15 AM
Saturday

calimary

(85,674 posts)
64. Not if you'd been in UC Irvine's art department.
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 02:53 AM
Sunday

Got a story for ya that I hope will make you laugh:

We had one instructor, Pat Alt, who was fresh from the very freewheeling Cal Arts. He was pretty much open to anything. One thing that was a must for him: whatever art you produced didnโ€™t really rate unless it was HUGE. At least a totally impractical and unrealistic 6x8 feet. (Okay. Whereโ€™s my mom gonna hang THAT in her house, โ€˜eh? And why would she even want to except as a sympathy vote?). But it WAS time for the final project.

I spread my ridiculously large canvass (including the required stretcher bars) out on the patio in the backyard of the house where my boyfriend lived. I set about โ€œcreatingโ€ with odd & cool stuff I bought at the local hardware store where my boyfriend worked. I used his employee discount to buy containers of broken glass bits, silver glitter, Plaster of Paris, big squirts of acrylic paint in white, black, and I think brown, too, and whatever else struck my fancy.

I covered the canvass with all that shit, in big blops and little sprinklings, sometimes shaken out onto the surface in different spots. I lifted one or two corners so everything would kinda run and ooze downward from where it was applied, but in different directions of downward. Then I turned the hose on it.

I decided I couldnโ€™t think of anything more to do, so I left it outside there to dry overnight.

The next day (presentation day in that art class) I went out to inspect the results. Everything was dry, alright, but as it was laid out flat on the ground under that big tree, hundreds of little brown feathery spores had floated down all over the canvass, got stuck in place, and dried there. And if that werenโ€™t enough, some unfortunate little caterpillar somehow crawled up onto the canvass and it, too, got stuck and perished.

I was mortified AND terrified. I thought it was the fiasco of all time and THIS was the final project to turn in for grades and class was in a couple of hours, so I was thoroughly SCREWED. There wasnโ€™t time to try to make a new one.

So my boyfriend helped me drive it over to campus and set it up in the big art studio/โ€œclassroomโ€. We had to drive slowly because each of us had to stretch our outer arm through our open car window, reaching up to the roof of the car to hold my monstrosity in place. When we got it to campus and upstairs into the studio/โ€œclassroomโ€, I maneuvered it over kinda to one side so maybe nobodyโ€™d see it, leaned it against the wall, and then I hid (or tried to so hopefully nobody would spot ME either).

Well, no such luck. Each of us in class had to present our work so the teacher and classmates could comment, and a final grade, hopefully a good one, could be earned. My turn came, more or less, although I didnโ€™t immediately present myself. So the critiques began. Just a few. Most didnโ€™t really understand it. One uppity guy blurted out that it looked like shit. Teacher remained silent, just looking at the - uh - painting. Finally after what seemed like way too long, he spoke.

No. He actually gasped. Drew a LOOOOOONNNNNG breath. โ€œWhose work is this?โ€ I weakly held up my hand. He gasped again. And then he started, with feeling: โ€œTHATโ€ฆ isโ€ฆ BRILLIANT!!! THATโ€ฆ is one of the most brilliant works Iโ€™ve EVERโ€ฆ SEEN!!! O. M. G. THATโ€ฆ could hang in the Nicholas Wilder Gallery ANY DAY of the WEEK!!!โ€

Well, Iโ€™d never expected ANY reaction like that, especially from the guy who was gonna give me a grade on it. And Iโ€™d never heard of the Nicholas Wilder Gallery, either. I was shocked! Speechless! I didnโ€™t even have the nerve to look around at my classmates to see their reaction. I didnโ€™t know WHAT to do. But fortunately, class was soon over and at least I could skeedaddle right outta there and disappear!

I left my โ€œartworkโ€ there and tried to forget about it. Iโ€™m pretty sure somebody finally threw it away at the end of the term. I didnโ€™t want it because who among the people I knew would even have wall space to hang the damn thing, much less actually want to, and I sure didnโ€™t have a place to hang it either. It was truly something even my mother couldnโ€™t love, much less understand.

But, by Jove, I got an A.

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
65. OMG that is such an awesome story, thank you for sharing it! I was laughing so hard! I'm glad
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 07:55 AM
Sunday

You got an โ€œAโ€ at least for going to all that trouble!

I donโ€™t have the ability to appreciate modern art. I think it is a matter of not having the education or maybe I donโ€™t have the brainpower to understand art that is abstracted beyond a certain degree. There are some abstract works I really like, but definitely not all of them. The ones that are just paint splatters, I donโ€™t respond to them emotionally at all. They donโ€™t make me feel like the paintings of the impressionists or other less modern types of art do.

๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™

calimary

(85,674 posts)
69. Let you in on a little secret.
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 12:15 PM
Sunday

I doubt anyone, deep-down, ever completely understands modern art. I guess itโ€™s just all about subjectivity.

Maybe itโ€™s simply a kind of groping forโ€ฆ wellโ€ฆ whatever the individual involved thinks the need still is. Maybe itโ€™s just one of many interpretations of jerking off.

Hey, whatever! Donโ€™t mind me. Iโ€™m just an art major.

And it could just be that โ€œartโ€ is just three-quarters of the way toward โ€œfartโ€!

๐Ÿฅด๐Ÿ˜ˆ๐Ÿคก

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
40. Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. As long as I don't expect too much as far as results go, it's enjoyable. I just
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 05:16 AM
Saturday

Have to remind myself, itโ€™s the process that matters, not the result. It can be therapy of sorts, done right,

PatSeg

(49,996 posts)
68. Oh yes, that is good to remember
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 09:43 AM
Sunday

When it comes to creativity, I've always had a problem with being too attached to the results, often overlooking how positive the process can be.

KT2000

(21,304 posts)
16. Reminds me of Irish landscapes
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 05:58 PM
Friday

because of the darkness that is always present in all things Irish. I really like it .

IbogaProject

(4,194 posts)
18. Nice
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 05:59 PM
Friday

They only way you will improve is to finish things and start the next one with improved skills. Keep at it, you are getting there already.

turbinetree

(25,966 posts)
19. You are mastering the shades ..................between light and dark..........keep up the good work............
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 06:08 PM
Friday

turbinetree

(25,966 posts)
63. Your Welcome That is the key for every artist to master the shades . When you start using a smaller brush you will see
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:20 PM
Saturday

the importance from dark to light. My art teacher was a stickler on that ..........he taught us what Michelangelo did to perfect the medium. He showed us how to measure a human body by using the head as a reference. If you look at ones shoulders for instance and use your thumb to use the head as a reference you can see that the head is the size as to one side of the shoulder to the neck it will always be two heads wide and then to use the head to proportional see how many heads tall a person is and then when you get to the feet you use half of the head.......Michelangelo figures it out...........we had to draw the human body with muscles only , skeleton only, two weeks of nothing but hands....... feet..............I love art .............as much as I love planes..............

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
66. That's true, they say if you get the values exactly right, you can use any colors you want....
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 08:09 AM
Sunday

I do still struggle with getting the values right. I use a value finder. One of those things with shades from black to white, ten shades.

I think it would help me if I printed out large photos, like 8x10, to paint from instead of trying to paint from my iPad. I see instructors using laminated photos all the time to check the accuracy of their color mixtures and it looks like a very helpful thing, butโ€ฆprinting out photos is an extra expense, and I am trying to be frugal these days.

Thatโ€™s cool that they taught you the tricks of measuring, I always remember being taught that the eyes are one third of the way from the top of the headโ€ฆtook a couple of art coursesโ€ฆ.now I just watch YouTube videos, but I find them enormously helpful and wish I had had access to those even in my teensโ€ฆtechnology is amazing.

I pay for YouTube premium, itโ€™s worth it to me because I watch YouTube honestly more than I watch regular tv. I watch at least a couple hours of art instruction a day on YouTube, so you can see where Iโ€™d find it worth the twenty dollars a month to be able to watch ad free.

Maybe I should stop being so cheap and pay fifty dollars a month or so to have big photos printed out. My art would improve a great deal if I didโ€ฆ

๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’™

marble falls

(64,316 posts)
21. you're coming along just fine. The painting is well composed, the brushword, particularly in ...
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 06:19 PM
Friday

... in the foreground is very good. The work you need to do is educate your hand by the three Ps - paint, paint, paint. Paint the same thing multiple times. I think the back ground needs a little more detail with a smaller brush, and using paint that isn't to neutral. Are you using Sap Green for your back ground mix?

I'd like to see a painting of yours with a long depth - I'd like to see how you approach the mid ground.

Very nice work!

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
47. Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. Yeah, I need to put in those hours of practice...depth is something I struggle with,
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 05:20 AM
Saturday

Thatโ€™s definitely a task for me, getting that atmospheric perspective right.

marble falls

(64,316 posts)
56. You got the concept, you just need to refine your stokes, I'm 74. I'm still working on my hand ...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:50 AM
Saturday

... but it's obvious: you got the talent, you got the "vision thing"!

SheltieLover

(65,712 posts)
30. Beautiful!
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 08:21 PM
Friday

The nice thing about oil is you can change it anytime you want to, if you feel like it.

I love it just as is!

Thank you for sharing.

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
49. Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. I do find oil paints and acrylic paints to be very forgiving.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 05:21 AM
Saturday

SheltieLover

(65,712 posts)
58. Imo, oil is much more forgiving as it literally never dries.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:20 AM
Saturday

Byt then there are fhe smelly cgemicals for cleaning up...

Ah well...

Enjoy!

Ocelot II

(123,944 posts)
35. Very nice, I really like the colors.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 08:29 PM
Friday

Photographing oil paintings, especially if they're in progress, is difficult because they are a bit shiny and it's really hard to avoid that shine in a photo. The art class I've been taking for years has been held on Zoom since the pandemic, and we send email photos to the instructor for him to evaluate and show to the rest of the class - and I'm always struggling to get a good photo with true colors and no shine. I've had the best luck with photos by placing the painting in an area where there's no artificial light shining on it, and during an overcast day. Then I use Photoshop to fix the colors if they aren't quite right. Once your painting is dry you can get deeper colors if you use retouch varnish but it will still be shiny in photos. Keep it up, you're doing great.

LiberalLoner

(10,856 posts)
50. Thank you so much! ๐Ÿ’™. Yeah the shine is a problem, I try to photograph at an angle, from above...your
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 05:22 AM
Saturday

Method sounds much better, thanks for sharing that tip!

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