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By substituting green tea for coffee I've lost 80% of (Original Post) Floyd R. Turbo Dec 21 OP
I have friends who have experiences similar to yours... LakeVermilion Dec 21 #1
And you! Floyd R. Turbo Dec 21 #2
Sometimes you just have to draw the line somewhere! Diamond_Dog Dec 21 #3
🤗 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 21 #4
exactly! stopdiggin Dec 21 #5
😢 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 21 #7
Channel Reese's griloco Dec 21 #6
🤗 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 21 #8
For those that do, perhaps a wee dram of Irish whisky also? erronis Dec 21 #10
It couldn't hurt. 😉 CentralMass Dec 22 #51
They will take my coffee out of my cold, dead hands. True Blue American Dec 21 #9
Here here JMCKUSICK Dec 21 #11
Now that's drawing a line! Evolve Dammit Dec 21 #25
Probably literally malaise Dec 22 #43
Only 80? That's good. twodogsbarking Dec 21 #12
😁 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 22 #36
For some reason, I only enjoy the tea they serve in chinese restaurants. Mr.Bill Dec 21 #13
🤔 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 22 #37
Why substitute? Why not drink both? Coffee for joy in the morning and green tea for peaceful sleep at night! ancianita Dec 21 #14
🤗 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 22 #38
Wapo did a thing on coffee and tea, coffee is healthier Mosby Dec 21 #15
🤗 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 22 #52
4 out of 5 doctors recommend... LudwigPastorius Dec 21 #16
Hhhhhaaaaa! Bluethroughu Dec 21 #20
Jerry Reed said True Blue American Dec 22 #33
😁 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 22 #53
Hahaha...my husband brought this up for me the other night. Bluethroughu Dec 21 #17
😁 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 22 #54
Drink less coffee. LuvLoogie Dec 21 #18
do you just grind the cardamom pods with the beans? druidity33 Dec 21 #30
Try six or seven pods, see if you like it LuvLoogie Dec 21 #31
I keep a number of BlueSky3 Dec 22 #41
🤔 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 22 #55
You bring smiles to my days. SaveOurDemocracy Dec 21 #19
Thank you! Floyd R. Turbo Dec 22 #56
Sometimes I go hours without coffee.... sdfernando Dec 21 #21
😜🎼✔️ True Blue American Dec 22 #35
😁 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 22 #57
I lived in Japan for 21 years and never came to enjoy green tea. I drank it all the time to be polite, but when I have Martin68 Dec 21 #22
😃 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 23 #60
Tea...? FailureToCommunicate Dec 21 #23
😁 Floyd R. Turbo Dec 23 #61
Floyd R. Turbo Upthevibe Dec 21 #24
In China they have jasmine and other teas in plastic bottles like we have soda/ pop. It's really good. I love my coffee Evolve Dammit Dec 21 #26
I do like green tea in the afternoon though. AllyCat Dec 21 #27
I love my coffee! I don't care for green tea. Linda ladeewolf Dec 21 #28
You don't put boiling water on green tea. Take the water off before applegrove Dec 21 #29
So you are saying every single Japanese person is brewing their green tea the "wrong" way? Get a grip. Martin68 Dec 22 #48
They may like it bitter. I have seen the same advice on green tea applegrove Dec 22 #50
Kaffree Roma is 5 Stars Zackzzzz Dec 21 #32
You brought back a memory.... electric_blue68 Dec 22 #34
I start with strong black coffee then move on to the green tea Clouds Passing Dec 22 #39
Make that green tea Yerba Mate BlueSky3 Dec 22 #40
I hear you! I had to do the same thing, and it's all decaf. ananda Dec 22 #42
Give up nothing justaprogressive Dec 22 #44
Love this sentiment peggysue2 Dec 22 #47
Went camping with friends years ago Orrex Dec 22 #45
Coffee is okay but I love my green tea every morning. Grokenstein Dec 22 #46
It's easier to just quit caffeine. Iggo Dec 22 #49
I stopped drinking tea when the British put a tax on it. Wonder Why Dec 22 #58
I am a coffee fiend and addict. peacebuzzard Dec 22 #59

stopdiggin

(13,108 posts)
5. exactly!
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:51 PM
Dec 21

yours in good health - and misery,
dig
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griloco

(843 posts)
6. Channel Reese's
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:56 PM
Dec 21

Add a green tea bag to your coffee.
If that doesn't work for you, throw in chocolate and peanut butter...

Mr.Bill

(24,903 posts)
13. For some reason, I only enjoy the tea they serve in chinese restaurants.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:23 PM
Dec 21

I think it's a plot.

ancianita

(39,022 posts)
14. Why substitute? Why not drink both? Coffee for joy in the morning and green tea for peaceful sleep at night!
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:30 PM
Dec 21

Be good to yourself.

Life can be both, not just either-or.

Mosby

(17,751 posts)
15. Wapo did a thing on coffee and tea, coffee is healthier
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:44 PM
Dec 21
In this battle over health benefits, coffee comes out on top. Coffee drinkers can raise a mug to fiber, microbiome health and lowering risk for cancer and diabetes. But tea drinkers, do not despair. Tea is undoubtedly good for your blood pressure, cholesterol, stress levels, mental health and productivity. And both drinks are winners when it comes to heart health and longevity. And for tea, especially, there are likely more health benefits that are yet to be discovered.


There is a surprising amount of dietary fiber in coffee, which you don't find in tea.

https://wapo.st/3ZRLwpQ

LudwigPastorius

(11,247 posts)
16. 4 out of 5 doctors recommend...
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:45 PM
Dec 21

soul-crushing, tasteless food & exhausting, agonizing exercise for a long, miserable life!

LuvLoogie

(7,602 posts)
18. Drink less coffee.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:49 PM
Dec 21

Drink it black about an hour before you eat. Green tea still has caffeine, but other benefits as well. And you can drink it thoughout the day. I love coffee, but don't drink as much as I used to. My wife and I share about 45 grams/900 ml of water brewed in a French press most mornings. I'll have the occassional red eye. Sometimes I'll have coffee after dinner out, or late in the evening when I drive downtown to pick up my daughter from work.

But I have been drinking a lot more tea lately, as well. Earl Grey, Orange pekoe, oolong, black Darjeeling with sage leaves or mint leaves added to the brew. Also chamomile and chrysanthemum flowers together or separate. Cinnamon tea made from simmered Ceylon cinnamon stick.

Oh and try grinding some cinnamon in with your beans. I add about 5 grams cinnamon to the 45 coffee. Try grinding cardamom pods with your beans, too! Don't quit! Moderate!

druidity33

(6,606 posts)
30. do you just grind the cardamom pods with the beans?
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:35 PM
Dec 21

how many do you add? I use a french press too... about that size. I'm a big fan of Earl Grey (I prefer Bigelow, occasionally the fancy blend from a local tea shop) and Darjeeling (I'll try it with mint, that sounds nice)



LuvLoogie

(7,602 posts)
31. Try six or seven pods, see if you like it
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:53 PM
Dec 21

Less might be too subtle? Yes, grind them with the beans. You could add cardamom to espresso, too, for an Arabic style.

Yeah, the Bigelow is nice. We love their Constant Comment spiced tea, too. There's a loose leaf 2.5 oz package by Steven Smith Teamaker that they call Lord Bergamot. It's good. They also do a really nice jasmine green tea. I get that at Wholefoods.

Martin68

(24,805 posts)
22. I lived in Japan for 21 years and never came to enjoy green tea. I drank it all the time to be polite, but when I have
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:01 PM
Dec 21

a choice it's either coffee or a flavorful black tea like Darjeeling or Earl Grey. My wife is Japanese, and she has green tea daily, although she likes coffee, too.

Evolve Dammit

(19,315 posts)
26. In China they have jasmine and other teas in plastic bottles like we have soda/ pop. It's really good. I love my coffee
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:30 PM
Dec 21

though. So many choices now. Just like micro brews. Back in the day we had Hills Bros., Chock-Full-of Nuts, and then Mrs. Folger and Juan Valdez came on the scene. God, I'm dating myself..

Linda ladeewolf

(516 posts)
28. I love my coffee! I don't care for green tea.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:46 PM
Dec 21

So I’m stocking up. I have 12 pounds of coffee at least in my freezer, another 8 to 10 pounds in the cabinet. Also stocking up on my favorite teas. Stocking up on chocolate too. As well as sugar and my sweeteners. Going to try to go on as long as possible. If I have to, I will have blackberry tea and sassafras growing in my yard as well as mint and perhaps chamomile.

I had to have my septic system redone a month ago, and the man that dug it out, very kindly took out, my out of control forsythia bush, I’ve tried to get rid of for years. It cleared enough space, I can put some garden beds out there too. Perhaps my mini green houses too.

I feel compelled to do something to help myself even if it not very much.

applegrove

(123,854 posts)
29. You don't put boiling water on green tea. Take the water off before
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:11 PM
Dec 21

it boils. And you steep it for a much shorter time frame. Otherwise it gets bitter.

https://www.shantitea.ca/home/blog_article/st/773/how-to-steep-green-tea-properly?srsltid=AfmBOopPyA8Vp_gLdaE33bEQZ0A4xwSt0ocdjxCosYTz0UK-J3jZsJSo

"SNIP...........

How to steep green tea properly

In our workshops we come across a lot of people who didn’t previously realize that steeping time and water temperature affect the taste of tea drastically. Just a difference of 15 seconds, or a temperature variance of as little as 2 degrees can make the difference between an exquisite cup of tea and an awfully bitter tea experience.

Green tea, White Tea, and Oolong Tea
Using boiling water to steep tea only works well for black teas and herbal ‘teas’. For green, white, and oolong teas, boiling water can burn the tea leaves and make the tea very bitter. Generally there is a range between 75C and 85C for green, white, and oolong teas (see our specific tea product pages for temperature guidelines), but of course most people do not have a thermometer ready to measure water temperature; instead, they will simply wait for the kettle to whistle, then pour water onto the leaves. Again, this is fine for black teas and herbal teas, but there are a few tricks you can use to make sure that your water is closer to the appropriate temperature for your tea.

Method 1: Letting your water cool after boiling.
One way to get your water down to the proper temperature range is to let it cool for about 5 to 6 minutes after boiling. So you would take your kettle off the stove, open the lid to let the steam escape, and let it cool down for 5 to 6 minutes. Then pour the water onto your tea leaves. This is not an exact method, but it is far better than pouring boiling water directly onto your green, white, or oolong teas.

Method 2: Pulling the kettle off before the water boils.
Although this method does work to make your tea taste better, there are problems associated with it. The oxygen content in water helps with the tea infusion process, and by boiling the water and then letting it cool, you are using water that has been slightly de-oxygenated through the boiling process. Ideally you would actually take the kettle off the stove before it boils, but without a thermometer it is difficult to tell when you remove the kettle. One trick would be to wait until you begin to see bubbles forming at the bottom of the kettle, before they start to rise to the surface. This is one indication that your water temperature is nearing the ideal range. By pulling the kettle off before the water boils, you are preventing excessive de-oxygenation of the water, and your tea will infuse and taste better.

Method 3: Ice cubes
Most of us only have one kettle which we use to heat water for tea. If you are able to acquire a thermometer, you can do an experiment which will allow you to easily get the right temperature of water without the use of a thermometer after this first time. Simply bring your water to a boil, place your thermometer into it (Make sure it is a thermometer which will be able to measure temperatures in excess of 100C, and please do not use a mercury thermometer), and start dropping ice cubes into the kettle, one at a time, letting them fully melt and stirring the water before adding the next ice cube. Figure out how many iced cubes you need to add to bring your water temperature down into the ideal range. Once you know this, you can use this method to quickly cool down your water into the ideal range without the need for a thermometer. This is an especially useful trick for cafes who need to quickly prepare green teas for their customers, but only have one source of hot water from their industrial coffee maker.

Steeping Time
Steeping time is the next important factor in making a good cup of tea. For green teas, the recommended steeping time usually does not exceed 2:30 min, and usually is best at no more than 2 min. Any longer than this and the tea begins to get bitter. Keep in mind that green teas are great for 2nd and 3rd infusions, so don’t throw out your tea leaves after the first infusion. Different flavors come out in each infusion, so try to take the time to enjoy full complexity of the flavor profile.

Keeping the temperature and steeping times low will help to coax out the best flavors from your green tea, so spend a little time to figure out the way that works best for you to control these variables, and you’ll never have a cup of bitter green tea again.

..............SNIP"

Martin68

(24,805 posts)
48. So you are saying every single Japanese person is brewing their green tea the "wrong" way? Get a grip.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 03:55 PM
Dec 22

applegrove

(123,854 posts)
50. They may like it bitter. I have seen the same advice on green tea
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 08:53 PM
Dec 22

from two separate sources 25 years apart.

electric_blue68

(19,108 posts)
34. You brought back a memory....
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 06:08 AM
Dec 22

At my Art College way back I took a great ourse comparative religion course. Our professor took us to various places of worship.

We also went to The Japan Society near the UN. A Jspanese cultural center to foster understanding.

We went for a Japanese Tea Ceremony. We were in room closed by the traditional paper, and wood lattice walls, and sliding door.

It was Matcha tea which I managed to drink down. A more opaque green, and a bit frothy. Stronger than regular green tea.

justaprogressive

(2,599 posts)
44. Give up nothing
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:14 AM
Dec 22

Buy the best, thereby increasing your enjoyment and then have it less often...


Some stellar options include Kona fr. Hawaii, Golden Sumatran and Jamaican Blue Mtn.

Really Enjoy!

Orrex

(64,410 posts)
45. Went camping with friends years ago
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 11:57 AM
Dec 22

Seeing that I was parched and thirsty from whatever activity, one of my friends kindly offered me a green tea in a tall, unopened can. I'd never tried it before but had heard good things, so I gratefully accepted.

It was so unbelievably foul that I looked to my other friends because I was sure I'd been pranked. "How could anyone drink this?" I wondered. "How did the first person to drink it convince the second person that it wasn't poison?"

Two decades later the questions remain unanswered, my opinion unchanged.

Grokenstein

(5,869 posts)
46. Coffee is okay but I love my green tea every morning.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 12:14 PM
Dec 22

I get the bottled stuff, but it's the extra-dark/bold Japanese tea (Ito En brand), not sugared-up or "citrus-flavored" crap from Arizona or Lipton.

peacebuzzard

(5,301 posts)
59. I am a coffee fiend and addict.
Sun Dec 22, 2024, 10:43 PM
Dec 22

I need it first thing in the morning, and that's why I get up. It is a ritual.
If in a hotel or on a trip I am like a hunter scavenging on a mission to find it.
I need it to keep that headache from coming on.

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