... I've read the Hobbit and LOTR tens of times and to my children at least three times..

I've tried to read Simitillion to no avail three or four times, Hasn't taken.

Trying to figure out what I want to see tomorrow.

I gave up, because we clearly had read entirely different books. He saw male quest, war, and special effects. The books I read leaned heavily on Norse myth and how simple, homely people doing their duty were the yeomen of history. They also clearly yearned back to a lost time in a way that almost seemed Welsh.

Peter Jackson completely ruined my vision of the books. I don't know how he got where he did. Plus why did he have to devalue Legolas and Gimli's friendship by giving Legolas a love interest?

Pfffft!

Loved the movies. I zoomed through the books when I was around 12 yrs old. Reread, too.

It was also about determination, and friendship in the face of dangers. Especially for the Hobbits, as none of that kind stuff was in their history. Loved Aragorn's line, "you bow to no one".

And, while not in the book, I loved the bigger role he gave to Arwen.

And he diminished the role of Glorfindel and took out Tom Bombadil and Goldberry.

Whenever I finish re-reading them (I read all four once or twice a year), I have an overwhelming urge to eat new bread with butter and honey and clotted cream, and to drink ale in a pub and wipe foam off my face. So, to me, the quest was about the things they were working to preserve. Peter Jackson clearly just saw the battles.

Even the part they are given in the books is dull. And I think that was part of the point. Tolkien himself was really referring to WWI, not WWII. And the takeaway when he started the books was that WWI was a war of attrition, a war lost to disease in the trenches as much as anything else. He saw glory in war - I believe - only as part of a storied past. People who fought in WWI talked a lot about the tedium. They were fighting for what came before and after the war. The war itself, in hindsight, was secondary.

It's like asking, "and is there honey yet for tea?" I think Tolkien was referring to Rupert Brooke in an oblique way with all his references to honey.

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Not sure why.

I loved some of the earlier parts with the Valar living in the Blessed Realm, the two lamps, the Two 🥰 Trees .

Probably Beren & Luthien, too And a few other parts - the hidden city of Gondolan.

Other parts became Zzzzzzzzz.
Still, I always loved the illustrations that were done for it!

LOTR Movie Spoiler....
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.I always wished they had the part where Aragorn, and Gandalf go up into the mountains behind Gondor, and find a ?scion/sapling of ?Telperin the White Tree [vs Laurelin The Golden]


ETA:
In fact I just found last week - the Thumbnail Sketches I did for just that scene. Thought I should do a better tracing of them at some point. I had to make an urgent move, tossing out a lot of stuff - hadn't remembered I brought those eith me. 👍🥰

I don't think it's very readable.

Iteration 99 or something.

It's anime. Of course, I will watch it....as soon as it is streaming. I haven't gone to the movies since 2004.

So this is a cartoon? It doesn't have very good reviews, but some of my all time fav movies have had lousy reviews.

Happy Holidays to you, Mrs. & hour family & friends!

No, it is not a cartoon. Bugs Bunny is a cartoon. Anime is NOT a cartoon.
I have cried more during some anime than most will ever cry during a "film". Don't worry, it is a common misconception. Easily solved by watching a few good anime's. If you have Netflix, I can recommend some good ones.

I’m a massive LOTR geek!