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marmar

(78,089 posts)
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 10:03 AM Friday

Elon Musk just killed Donald Trump's honeymoon


Elon Musk just killed Donald Trump's honeymoon
We are seeing is an emerging crack in the GOP coalition

By Heather Digby Parton
Columnist
Published December 20, 2024 9:09AM (EST)


(Salon) Back in 2016, the whole country was left in shock when celebrity businessman Donald Trump managed to take over the Republican Party and win the presidential election. At the time there was quite a bit of resistance within the GOP establishment due to the fact that Trump had not run as an ordinary conservative but rather as a populist demagogue. They had no idea that their voters were so hungry for his message. Gone were all the usual paeans to small government and family values and even his strong advocacy for expanding the military was coupled with a discordant isolationist stance that harkened back to the pre-WWII America First movement. (Trump had no idea about that history — he thought he came up with it himself.)

....(snip)....

That's never been clearer than this week when Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., presented the bipartisan continuing resolution to fund the government until March and all hell broke loose in the House. Those rascally, back bench Tea Party/Freedom Caucus ideologues finally got the leader they've been waiting for and his name is Elon Musk, the richest man in the world.

....(snip)....

That didn't work out the way they planned it. Trump thought he had cleverly boxed Elon Musk out of real power by creating a powerless "commission" for him and his sidekick Vivek Ramaswamy to come up with enormous spending cuts to reduce the federal government by as much as a third, which he knows won't happen. However, Trump has essentially empowered Musk to speak for him by having him by his side every minute for the last three months. And seeing as he's the richest man in the world who owns a major social media platform, he has plenty of power all on his own.

....(snip)....

Trump then came up with what he thought was a clever idea to take control by demanding that they only pass a bill if it also delayed or eliminated the debt ceiling, which just showed how out of touch he is with the dynamic in the House. (As I said, Trump has a lot of spending to do and he doesn't want the debt ceiling hanging over his head.) But if President Elon's accomplices in the Freedom Caucus are on a crusade against more government spending, why in the world would they agree to eliminate the debt ceiling? ..............(more)

https://www.salon.com/2024/12/20/elon-musk-just-donald-honeymoon/




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Elon Musk just killed Donald Trump's honeymoon (Original Post) marmar Friday OP
May have even killed the inauguration C_U_L8R Friday #1
Elon, Bezos, Zuckerberg, et al can pay for it all... bsiebs Friday #2
This message was self-deleted by its author bsiebs Friday #3
Melania will get right on it MadLinguist Friday #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Friday #8
"But if President Elon's accomplices in the Freedom Caucus are on a crusade against more government spending, why in Wiz Imp Friday #5
and the rest of us shall live on the streets . AllaN01Bear Friday #6
Missed the target Nasruddin Friday #10
Of course they want to eliminate the debt ceiling not fooled Friday #14
And they want the debt ceiling eliminated under Biden so they can always claim it was under Democrats that it was Wiz Imp Friday #15
No, he didn't lonely bird Friday #7
That is damning Musk with faint praise. Musk is insane and an idiot to boot. valleyrogue Friday #18
Oh, rest assured I am not fooled by his wealth lonely bird Saturday #23
They're "business" men. live love laugh Friday #9
But Convicted Felon Trump is still a honey wagon Jerry2144 Friday #11
They may actually succeed in causing the Trump Administration to crash and burn prior to Trump's inauguration. patphil Friday #12
I hope when that relationship implodes muskrat will speak out how they fixed the election in orange Hitler's favor! kimbutgar Friday #13
That's always been a thought in the background. Why is Musk so close to Trump? patphil Friday #16
Elonia controls the purse strings. Dulcinea Saturday #19
Because he bought him the election. Scrivener7 Saturday #22
musk represents a "cabal" of like minded billionaires rampartd Friday #17
Interesting that Hillbilly Vanilli has been so quickly sidelined. Dulcinea Saturday #20
an autistic billionaire space bro with zero impulse control basically well behaved 13 year old boy prodigitalson Saturday #21

C_U_L8R

(45,764 posts)
1. May have even killed the inauguration
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 10:34 AM
Friday

With the government closed, who's gonna set up the staging, send out the invites, work security, cook the meals, pay the bands, etc etc ???

bsiebs

(766 posts)
2. Elon, Bezos, Zuckerberg, et al can pay for it all...
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 10:42 AM
Friday

… the return they get for that investment will be phenomenal…

Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #1)

MadLinguist

(850 posts)
4. Melania will get right on it
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 10:44 AM
Friday

Her event planner is swimming in bux from the last inauguration bombast. It'll be a cinch

Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #1)

Wiz Imp

(2,411 posts)
5. "But if President Elon's accomplices in the Freedom Caucus are on a crusade against more government spending, why in
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 10:54 AM
Friday

the world would they agree to eliminate the debt ceiling?"

Duh! Maybe because they aren't really on a crusade against more government spending? They are on a crusade to give even more and bigger tax cuts to billionaires.

Nasruddin

(865 posts)
10. Missed the target
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 11:36 AM
Friday

Musk wants a shutdown. This is so similar to what he did at twitter. Eliminate large amounts of fed activity and leave some services considered really essential behind. Then never restart any of them.

not fooled

(6,114 posts)
14. Of course they want to eliminate the debt ceiling
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 01:05 PM
Friday

Then they can carry out their plan to spend like drunken sailors on tax cuts and enriching their cronies, without constraint. Later, they can point to the debt and demand the elimination of any remaining programs for the rest of us.

Wiz Imp

(2,411 posts)
15. And they want the debt ceiling eliminated under Biden so they can always claim it was under Democrats that it was
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 01:17 PM
Friday

eliminated allowing debt to explode unchecked. It won't work. Democrats will not agree to it now.

lonely bird

(1,965 posts)
7. No, he didn't
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 11:14 AM
Friday

His cultists believe Trump can do no wrong. Musk is far smarter than Trump. As long as Musk fakes fawning over Trump he can do whatever he wants.

Beyond that? I cannot write what I want to write.

valleyrogue

(1,191 posts)
18. That is damning Musk with faint praise. Musk is insane and an idiot to boot.
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 10:10 PM
Friday

Don't be fooled by his obscene wealth.

lonely bird

(1,965 posts)
23. Oh, rest assured I am not fooled by his wealth
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 09:07 AM
Saturday

He is a salesman just like Trump is but he handles his “brand” meaning himself better than Trump does.

patphil

(7,108 posts)
12. They may actually succeed in causing the Trump Administration to crash and burn prior to Trump's inauguration.
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 11:57 AM
Friday

That'd be a first.

Trump needs to break with Musk before Musk breaks Trump.
I suggest Trump's day one activities include arresting Musk for seditious activities. It's more important for him to neuter Musk than anything else on his agenda right now, and Musk has had a lot of meetings with foreign leaders that could be used to charge him with conveying defense information to them.
It might be a railroad job, but that's what Trump is all about. False charges, shame trial, and long prison sentence is just what Trump needs to do to block Musk's takeover of the US government.
Anyone who thinks that Musk is a serious threat just needs to listen to what Musk is saying. He's talking like he already runs the show.

kimbutgar

(23,591 posts)
13. I hope when that relationship implodes muskrat will speak out how they fixed the election in orange Hitler's favor!
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 12:27 PM
Friday

patphil

(7,108 posts)
16. That's always been a thought in the background. Why is Musk so close to Trump?
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 02:47 PM
Friday

Does he have the goods on him, like Putin does?

rampartd

(859 posts)
17. musk represents a "cabal" of like minded billionaires
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 04:13 PM
Friday

they seem to have lost confidence in j d vance and sent musk to keep an eye n their investments.

Dulcinea

(7,599 posts)
20. Interesting that Hillbilly Vanilli has been so quickly sidelined.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:05 AM
Saturday

If/when the McFelon shuffles off this mortal coil, Vance won't be able to keep the scam going. He lacks Trump's salesmanship & ability to sway the masses.

prodigitalson

(2,934 posts)
21. an autistic billionaire space bro with zero impulse control basically well behaved 13 year old boy
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 12:17 AM
Saturday

which is to say a not very well behaved human overall and an octogenarian autocrat who is basically a poorly behaved 8 year old boy which is to say even worse...

I don't know exactly what kind of boy rfk jr is but he's one too

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