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Eugene

(62,767 posts) Mon Dec 16, 2024, 04:24 AM Dec 16

American by birth? Congratulations! But maybe have your papers ready.

Source: Kansas Reflector

American by birth? Congratulations! But maybe have your papers ready.

Max McCoy
December 15, 2024 3:33 am

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I’ve been thinking about Napoleon and the other first white children of Kansas because President-elect Donald “Windrip” Trump promised in an interview last weekend to end birthright citizenship for newborns as part of his mass deportation plan for immigrants.

Trump said he would seek to repeal birthright citizenship by executive order. He is also considering removing immediate family members of the deported, even though some may be U.S. citizens, to keep families together.

Believe him, because he’s packing his administration with the Macgoblins lined up to do it. He’s announced Stephen Miller — you remember, he’s the guy who looks like he’s sweating to beat Indiana Jones to the Ark of the Covenant — as chief of staff for policy and homeland security adviser. Miller said a few days ago mass deportations would be the top priority from the first day of Trump’s new administration.

While legal scholars doubt Trump can actually end birthright citizenship because of the pesky 14thAmendment to the Constitution, I’m not so sure. Trump’s loyalists seem to care little for the rule of law, and some of those loyalists are on the Supreme Court.

Bias, if not outright racism, has always played a part in our national memory. ...

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Read more: https://kansasreflector.com/2024/12/15/american-by-birth-congratulations-but-maybe-have-your-papers-ready/

Alternate link: https://news.yahoo.com/news/american-birth-congratulations-maybe-papers-093340010.html

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The article is long, and it goes deeply into Kansas history and race. It goes on to warn, that non-white citizens should keep their papers handy.

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American by birth? Congratulations! But maybe have your papers ready. (Original Post) Eugene Dec 16 OP

Well, if they come after my daughter, at least she has somewhere to go, just in case DFW Dec 16 #1

Bye bye Eric, Don Jr, Ivanka and Baron DeeDeeNY Dec 16 #2

"Windrip" is reference to President in Sinclair Lewis novel "It Can't Happen Here". (but it might) . . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 16 #3

When you consider most minorities vote Democrat KS Toronado Dec 16 #4

Given our current Supreme Court, Trump may get away with this. Lonestarblue Dec 16 #5

DFW

(56,891 posts)

1. Well, if they come after my daughter, at least she has somewhere to go, just in case

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Dec 16, 2024, 06:33 AM

Dec 16

She wasn't born in the USA and her mother isn't American.

On the other hand, she has been a citizen from birth, and has a birth certificate to prove it, so maybe she'll be OK. It's ridiculous that we even have to speculate about this.

DeeDeeNY

(3,579 posts)

2. Bye bye Eric, Don Jr, Ivanka and Baron

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Dec 16, 2024, 06:43 AM

Dec 16

Their mothers didn't become U.S. citizens until after they were born.

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,248 posts)

3. "Windrip" is reference to President in Sinclair Lewis novel "It Can't Happen Here". (but it might) . . . . .nt

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Dec 16, 2024, 06:51 AM

Dec 16

KS Toronado

(19,703 posts)

4. When you consider most minorities vote Democrat

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Dec 16, 2024, 07:01 AM

Dec 16

It's easy to see why repugs want to deport them, to win elections is the motivation.

Lonestarblue

(11,982 posts)

5. Given our current Supreme Court, Trump may get away with this.

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Dec 16, 2024, 08:45 AM

Dec 16

Here’s the text of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment:

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Does anyone doubt that people like Alito and Thomas would find ways to twist the law to benefit Trump? For example, has the court ever defined what “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” means? It could be twisted to mean that people who enter the country illegally and any children born to them are subject only to the jurisdiction of the birth country of the parents.

The other potential clause to create trouble is “No State shall make or enforce any law …” States may not abridge birthright citizenship, but can the federal government, which is not specifically cited?

Since the SC already neutered Section 3 of this amendment prohibiting anyone participating in insurrection from holding public office, what is to stop them from neutering Section 1?

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