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BumRushDaShow

(144,186 posts)
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 08:04 AM Dec 14

Aggrieved white men are a threat to democracy -- history tells us we can't ignore them

The American South, apartheid South Africa and Germany in the 1930s: One demographic caused destruction and chaos

By Bernd Reiter
Political Science Professor, Texas Tech
Published December 14, 2024 5:45AM (EST)



In the 2024 presidential election, some 60 percent of white men voted for Donald Trump, making this group his strongest block. Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro garnered about the same amount of support from white men, in 2018. In Argentina, 64 percent of Argentinian men voted for Javier Milei. Viktor Orbán’s Fidesz party in Hungary is mostly supported by men, even if precise data iis hard to come by. Other far-right parties in European countries, including German AfD, the Austrian FPÖ, the Italian Fdl and the French National Rally (formerly the National Front), are all made possible by aggrieved and latently angry white men.

For many white men in Western societies, demographic and cultural shifts challenge a social hierarchy in which they once held sway. Isabel Wilkerson argues that this “loss” is not material but psychological — a fear of diminished power over groups they once dominated. Ashley Jardina explains that some aggrieved white mean fear being replaced, leading them to form a new, white men, group identity. Arlie Hochschild found that many of them experience a sense of "Stolen Pride."

History has shown that when aggrieved white men form a collective identity and start to see themselves as a group, they are prone to react violently and can pose serious threats to democracy and peace.

After the U.S. Civil War in the 1860s, white men in the American South reacted violently to Black enfranchisement, instituting Jim Crow laws and lynching more than 3,000 Black Americans over the ensuing decades to enforce racial hierarchy. In South Africa, white Afrikaners, feeling humiliated after their final defeat in the Boer War in 1902, imposed apartheid to retain dominance over Black South Africans.

(snip)

More: https://www.salon.com/2024/12/14/aggrieved-men-are-a-to-democracy--history-tells-us-we-cant-ignore-them/


I actually still have the below mag issue (tucked in a file cabinet) that came out in 1993, just over 30 years ago -



It came out as a commentary to a movie - "Falling Down" that was released that year -



The above-linked article mentions Isabella Wilkerson's latest book (2020) - Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents, which I have considered getting to read.

I think much of this has factored into this past election - part of a cycle.
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sop

(11,573 posts)
1. "There is nothing more unequal than the equal treatment of unequal people." - Thomas Jefferson
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 08:19 AM
Dec 14

"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression” - (attributed to) Franklin Leonard.

Botany

(72,659 posts)
4. Generational racism, sexism, and stupidity are America's cancers.
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 08:45 AM
Dec 14

“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”
― Lyndon B. Johnson

Botany

(72,659 posts)
12. And Russia and or their cut outs have been spreading the lie that males* in America are under attack via right wing web
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 10:05 AM
Dec 14

.....sites and media too. I have a good friend who I love dearly who has fallen for that crap.

* No longer just white males "they" targeted black and hispanic males too.

brush

(58,018 posts)
5. We're in dangerous times all right as the whole governmental, legal, political and...
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 08:51 AM
Dec 14

monetary system has been set up by white men to benefit white men, and theyre angry...WTF...everything is set up to they're advantage and they're angry?

Reminds me of that old adage, and i'm paraphrasing it: If angry, white, maga men have a slight cough, those of us in the Black community, the Latino, Asian, women, LGBTQ+ and progressive communities have death bed pneumonia.

This shit is serious, and percentage of white men voting for trump, as cited in the OP, is a bit less that I recall from previous trump tallies. More like two thirds, 66% of magas voted for the orange, and now criminal turd.

The situation is dire and the inauguration is gonna be wild as trump has invited China's Xi, Orban of Hungary and who knows what other dictator will be invited. I know trump wants his benefactor Putin to come but I don't think Pootie will risk it as he's a wanted criminal by several nations and if anything happens to force a landing in certain countries...well, it won't go well for Pootie.

And speaking of international criminals, has anyone heard if warmonger Netanyahu is invited?

What a world we are in now...from 2000 on and SCOTUS installing W. Bush to the WH and now, it seems like just flash of time. It accelerates as we get older, and we are.

And here we are.

Magas have the cojones to be angry when it's all set up for their advantage.

What a country, what a world, yet they haven't beaten us yet, we keep coming.

brush

(58,018 posts)
10. Thanks for that info. Xi has better sense than trump, what with trump threatening...
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 09:07 AM
Dec 14

25% tarrifs on his nations goods, what sense does it make for him to come here and pretend all is well?

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3Hotdogs

(13,559 posts)
13. Dunno. The guy in the picture above ---
Sat Dec 14, 2024, 04:20 PM
Dec 14

I have little sympathy for for the people he encountered on his way to his kid's birthday party.

Fact is, I'da voted for him over the Anal Fistula we elected.

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