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lees1975

(6,100 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:26 PM Dec 12

So, when your church betrays your conscience...

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/12/my-church-has-betrayed-my-conscience.html

To be honest, I'm not really surprised or shocked that, over the past nine years or so, the merger of right wing extremism in politics with the conservative, right wing Evangelical branch of Christianity has solidified itself, turning the bigger part of the churches and denominations which follow that line of theology, doctrine and politics, into what can only be described as a cult, by definition. Among those conservative Evangelicals who support Trump, complete abandonment of most of the core principles of the Christian gospel was a necessity to achieve the acquisition of political power. They are in a "deal with the devil," aligning with a politician who not only doesn't share their values, but lives and acts in a way that indicated he abhors and defiantly disrespects them. They campaign for him, raise money for him and help him get elected, he, allegedly, helps them achieve their ends.

They've given up on claiming what they call the "power of God" to lead them to their goals, which includes turning the United States into a Christian nationalist theocracy. What they are claiming is that God's power, and will, in bringing this about, is Trump. It's not possible, in any context of the Christian gospel, for this to be the case. There's no principle of the Christian gospel that supports this contention.


So if Trump's conservative, Evangelical supporters have been deceitful, and they've distorted the Christian gospel and the scripture text to do something like this, how is it that we can trust anything preached from the pulpit of someone who is a Trump supporter? The answer is simple. It is not possible to trust any preacher who believes in and supports Trump, whether openly or secretly. They are, like him, liars and deceivers.

It is possible for church leadership to be deceived by imposters. It's happened throughout the 2000 year history of the church. Even as the New Testament was being written, around 50-55 A.D., there were prophetic warnings about deceivers and intruders whose intention was to deceive for the benefit of their own cause.
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So, when your church betrays your conscience... (Original Post) lees1975 Dec 12 OP
In my opinion, when your church starts to betray your conscience... Think. Again. Dec 12 #1
American Christians jumped at the same deal Jesus rejected in the desert. nt Gore1FL Dec 12 #2
Great comparison. lees1975 Dec 13 #5
Antichrist can mean instead of Christ Trellastic Dec 12 #3
IMNSHO LogDog75 Dec 12 #4

Think. Again.

(19,040 posts)
1. In my opinion, when your church starts to betray your conscience...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:32 PM
Dec 12

...it means you are finally seeing the light.

Trellastic

(49 posts)
3. Antichrist can mean instead of Christ
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:58 PM
Dec 12

What is happening is this- Jesus Christ said the gospel of the kingdom will be preached through the entire world ( which is happening geographically and chronologically) and then the end will come.

Matthew 8 tells of demons telling Jesus to leave them alone and asking if He was there to torment them before the time. In Luke 8 the demons called Legion begged Jesus to not send them to the abyss.
Ephesians 6 includes the spiritual forces of the evil in the heavens as who our struggle is against

So it looks like the spiritual forces of evil in the heavens are trying to spread a false gospel around the world to keep the true gospel of the kingdom from spreading around the world, because Jesus said when that happens the end will come.
This false gospel looks to be the spiritual forces of evil attempt to delay the time, torment and the abyss stated in the scriptures.

Mark 16:15
New English Translation
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.

Matthew 24:14
New English Translation
14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole inhabited earth as a testimony to all the nations,[a] and then the end will come.

Acts 1:8
New English Translation
8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the farthest parts[a] of the earth.”




New English Translation


Matthew8:28 When he came to the other side, to the region of the Gadarenes,[a] two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were extremely violent, so that no one was able to pass by that way. 29 They[c] cried out, “Son of God, leave us alone![d] Have you come here to torment us before the time?”[e]

Luke 8:30-31
New English Translation
30 Jesus then[a] asked him, “What is your name?” He said, “Legion,”[c] because many demons had entered him. 31 And they began to beg[d] him not to order[e] them to depart into the abyss.[f]

Ephesians 6:12
New English Translation
12 For our struggle[a] is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world rulers of this darkness,[c] against the spiritual forces[d] of evil in the heavens.[e]

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