We are hacking China, China is hacking us.

From what has been reported, at least some of the goals with Salt Typhoon included intercepting communications of government officials and agencies. It has also been reported that this is ongoing and that discovering and eliminating the threat has not yet been successful.

We are no longer in a world where we can act with impunity. What we do is going to be done to us.

Our intel people know this and we know this.

Thinking along the lines of 2028, though, this cyberwar back and forth can and likely would be leveraged by Trump and his maga republicans to keep winning under the policy pretext of "keeping America safe again." Not to mention the U.S. dealing with the collateral fallout with our already distrusting allies through Trump's continued attempts to gain favor with nuclear powers. All on behalf of anti-democratic cryptotechbro forces surrounding him.

Trump will give China whatever they want if they help Trump steal the WH again.

And so Trump would allow the back and forth of cyberwar to continue. No matter the damageto the country... Trump's 3rd term or another maga win -- either way, anti-democratic forces stay in the WH.

As long as he and/ir his future maga bloc across the 3 branches have the nuclear codes and an immunized maga president, own the majority in congress and most of the money, .

Money and power.

Just like Putin is doing.

They care nothing about the damage, deaths, destruction they cause.
It is just collateral damage.

There was a coalition of 80+ billionaires behind Harris (to Trump's 53) on Nov 5, and that coalition needs to recommit over the next two years to owning media, owning pro-people messaging, bringing legal power to court battles, winning legislatures and governorships.

Money isn't everything, but when we see what's happened in this year's oligarch wars, we can see how much money can do with the right media, PR, legal and court systems already in place. .

So far no one has held Trump back at all.
The US government has folded. Judiciary and Congress.
And the US media is the PutinTrumpGOP propaganda arm.

four year nightmare. We only see a few legal allies readying for court battle, and our Democratic party congress people readying for legislative battle.

We also face an electorate that in large numbers didn't even vote; large numbers who don't want to deal with this (even in our party).
We could lose again if 54% of the electorate are below 6th grade literacy. Too many choose to believe "we've gotten through this before" as Mike Schmitt just said on MSNBC. It's likely that more of the electorate will personally struggle or despair to the point that they don't believe their election participation will matter anymore. ( I'm not one of them, but still, I lost thousands in donations to losing candidates.)

Though we don't know, might not know for awhile, maybe we'll know more by the midterms.