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(26,530 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:08 AM Dec 5

It is an ominous sign that Morning Joe felt it had to apologize for something I said. - David Frum

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/12/appeasement-new-age-trump/680871/?gift=8VB4FTPaF7_VnZm7Fs2V-S5aFdsJtjP0M7CfhJ2KJa8&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

The Sound of Fear on Air
It is an ominous sign that Morning Joe felt it had to apologize for something I said.

By David Frum

Excerpt:

. . . I answered by reminding viewers of some history:

In 1989, President George H. W. Bush nominated John Tower, senator from Texas, for secretary of defense. Tower was a very considerable person, a real defense intellectual, someone who deeply understood defense, unlike the current nominee. It emerged that Tower had a drinking problem, and when he was drinking too much he would make himself a nuisance or worse to women around him. And for that reason, his nomination collapsed in 1989. You don’t want to think that our moral standards have declined so much that you can say: Let’s take all the drinking, all the sex-pesting, subtract any knowledge of defense, subtract any leadership, and there is your next secretary of defense for the 21st century.

I told this story in pungent terms. It’s cable TV, after all. And I introduced the discussion with a joke: “If you’re too drunk for Fox News, you’re very, very drunk indeed.”

At the next ad break, a producer spoke into my ear. He objected to my comments about Fox and warned me not to repeat them. I said something noncommittal and got another round of warning. After the break, I was asked a follow-up question on a different topic, about President Joe Biden’s pardon of his son. I did not revert to the earlier discussion, not because I had been warned, but because I had said my piece. I was then told that I was excused from the studio chair. Shortly afterward, co-host Mika Brzezinski read an apology for my remarks.

A little bit earlier in this block there was a comment made about Fox News, in our coverage about Pete Hegseth and the growing number of allegations about his behavior over the years and possible addiction to alcohol or issues with alcohol. The comment was a little too flippant for this moment that we’re in. We just want to make that comment as well. We want to make that clear. We have differences in coverage with Fox News, and that’s a good debate that we should have often, but right now I just want to say there’s a lot of good people who work at Fox News who care about Pete Hegseth, and we will want to leave it at that.

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Irish_Dem

(59,688 posts)
2. MJ is groveling so hard makes me wonder if he is afraid of Trump's dead intern story threat.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:13 AM
Dec 5

comradebillyboy

(10,531 posts)
3. Joe Scab is the same shit person he's always been. A crass
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:20 AM
Dec 5

opportunist who's desperate to get back into Trump's good graces.

Comfortably_Numb

(4,121 posts)
7. How polite of you to call that gargantuan trump dumpster ass "the ring." They sucked up big time.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:00 PM
Dec 5

And we all know that only a hearty ass kissing will sate trump’s insecurity for a moment or two.

ECL213

(319 posts)
9. Bunch of f$#king lickspittles!
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:09 PM
Dec 5

I didn't watch MJ often, but once I heard about their trip to grovel at Mar-A-Lardo, I decided I would never watch them again, whether Mika is bleeding badly from the face, or not.

moniss

(6,149 posts)
11. But apparently there are not a lot of good people
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:37 PM
Dec 5

at "Morning Joe" who care about David Frum or it would seem democracy given their recent "travel schedule". But I wonder if anyone in Production took notes during the trip and could tell us if Mika and Joe attended to kissing separate butt cheeks or if they both dove for the first one that plopped out of the trousers of Donald Crumb? It was likely a vicious fight to be first.

Figarosmom

(3,288 posts)
12. At this point why would any pundit or reporter thatt wants to keep their
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:49 PM
Dec 5

Reputations clean even go on morning Joe. At this point they are just another tfg mouthpiece


They need to go the Imus in the Morning route......gone.

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