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marmar

(78,100 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 08:16 PM Oct 18

The electoral college has become a gun held to the head of US democracy


The electoral college has become a gun held to the head of US democracy
Lawrence Douglas

Created as a constitutional afterthought, the system now holds millions of voters hostage to a handful of counties
Fri 18 Oct 2024 06.00 EDT


(Guardian UK) These are not easy days for supporters of American democracy. But what twists my innards is not the prospect that in three weeks’ time, the majority of voters could hand the reins of power to a vengeful authoritarian demagogue. Instead, I’m sickened by the prospect that the electoral college can do that for us – that Kamala Harris could win the national popular vote, but come up short where it counts.

We know the popular vote winner has already twice lost in this young century, in 2000 and again in 2016. But few realize how narrowly we missed a catastrophic result in 2020 when Biden won the national popular vote by a substantial margin – over 7 million votes. In every other democratic nation, such a result would have settled matters. Not in the US. Biden’s margin of victory in three key swing states – Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin – was razor thin, with fewer than 44,000 votes combined.

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Worse still is how the electoral college dramatically magnifies the vote of citizens in a handful of swing states. Tens of millions of voters in non-competitive states are essentially disenfranchised. Kamala Harris presently enjoys a 24-point lead over Donald Trump in California. Votes for Trump in California count, then, for nothing, while all votes for Harris over the bare majority needed to win are utterly wasted. In the key swing states, things look very different.

The entire election will turn on what happens in seven states: Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, Georgia, Wisconsin, Nevada and Arizona. Voters in the remaining 43 states are reduced to the role of spectator. And so we’re left holding our breath, wondering whether American democracy will survive based on whether Arab Americans in Michigan feel betrayed by the Democratic party or whether Black men in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia will vote in sufficient numbers for Harris. ...............(more)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/18/us-election-electoral-college




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The electoral college has become a gun held to the head of US democracy (Original Post) marmar Oct 18 OP
Cue the EC defenders... dpibel Oct 18 #1
I take issue with one sentence. Igel Oct 18 #2
I get your point jacksonian Oct 19 #3
If we ever get enough power to change this system, we have to change it! it's madness! LymphocyteLover Oct 19 #4

dpibel

(3,439 posts)
1. Cue the EC defenders...
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 09:43 PM
Oct 18

Bizarrely, this anachronism is staunchly defended by long-time posters on this very website.

Go figure.

Igel

(36,230 posts)
2. I take issue with one sentence.
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 10:44 PM
Oct 18

(Lot's, actually, but one stands out.)

Voters in the remaining 43 states are reduced to the role of spectator.


I'm in TX. Does it matter how TX votes? Apparently not. We're spectators, all 30+ million of us.

I like to use the analogy of a basketball game (or football, or whatever team sport you prefer). Sportscasters like to say that "So-and-so won the game." But if it's won by 1 or 2 points, and those last points happen in the last 30 seconds, that demeans and renders the previous points meaningless, or at least it would seem. But remove any 3 of those and the winning team would have lost. The person who scored the first point was as valuable a contributor to the team's victory as the last scorer. One star accounts for 20% of the points, over and over, and the team only wins by a few points? Well, great, at 20% is awesomely important, but without the rest of the team that star player would be the astronomical equivalent of a brown dwarf, a failed star.

jacksonian

(750 posts)
3. I get your point
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 04:08 AM
Oct 19

But the bottom line is that minorities winning elections is destabilizing.

The only role of the EC is to make minorities win elections, otherwise it does nothing.

If Republicans needed supermajorities to win the EC it would be changed in a heartbeat.

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