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suegeo

(2,830 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:13 AM Aug 2024

Heritage president rails against birth control, IVF, abortion, childlessness, and dog parks

Last edited Thu Aug 1, 2024, 01:19 PM - Edit history (2)

https://www.mediamatters.org/kevin-roberts/forthcoming-book-heritage-president-rails-against-birth-control-ivf-abortion

In forthcoming book, Heritage president (Kevin Roberts) rails against birth control, IVF, abortion, childlessness, and dog parks

In the copy reviewed by Media Matters, Roberts, who is the architect of Heritage-led initiative Project 2025, rails against birth control, in vitro fertilization, and abortion. He says that having children should not be considered an “optional individual choice” but “a social expectation or a transcendent gift.” He describes “contraceptive technologies” as “revolutionary inventions that shape American culture away from abundance, marriage, and family.”

He labels reproductive choice methods as a “snake strangling the American family.” From page 63:

We need to understand what could be called contraceptive technologies—revolutionary inventions that shape American culture away from abundance, marriage, and family—in the same vein. They shift norms, incentives, and choices, often invisibly and involuntarily. Conservatives inveigh against no-fault divorce, the Sexual Revolution, and the destruction of a culture of hope without recognizing that these cultural changes are all downstream of technological ones.


Roberts blames contraception for a rise in abortion rates. Also from page 64:
As other kinds of contraceptive technologies spread, abortion rates went up, not down. Why? Because technological change made having a child seem like an optional and not natural result of having sex and destroyed a whole series of institutions and cultural norms that had protected women and forced men to take responsibility for their actions.


Somebody get Kevin the phone number of Paul Dolan, a professor of behavioural science at the London School of Economics. Dolan said women who are not married and do not have children are the happiest group in the population. He also said that unmarried and childless women are also likely to outlive their married child-rearing counterparts and are healthier than them.

]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-happy-children-spouse-partner-relationship-unmarried-a8931816.html

What color is the sky in Kevin Roberts' world? His world view is other-worldly. I don't think he and I live on the same planet.

Unmarried, childless women are the happiest. Kevin. Your wife must be miserable or dead from all the stress you cause her.

And the quote about the snake. Ugh.
Let's blame Eve. Her original sin.
A very long time ago, snakes were seen as the feminine divine. Cleopatra studied cobra venom. When she wasn't busying running Egypt.
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Heritage president rails against birth control, IVF, abortion, childlessness, and dog parks (Original Post) suegeo Aug 2024 OP
Then the maternal mortality rate should be *NEGLIGIBLE*, the cost of giving birth should be *NEGLIGIBLE* ck4829 Aug 2024 #1
Weirdo! AmBlue Aug 2024 #2
Kevin Roberts, like Trump, speaks in CODES.... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #3
Now it's dog parks; not content with insulting cat ladies, Ocelot II Aug 2024 #4
That made me barf. lastlib Aug 2024 #9
And if they DON'T want children, that is also their right. lastlib Aug 2024 #11
F_ck this busybody in everyone's bedroom and business. Let him keep talking, getting his views out there as he's... brush Aug 2024 #5
Crotch monitors. Ocelot II Aug 2024 #10
Yeah, some nerve. brush Aug 2024 #18
somebody posted earlier here on DU that Stardust Mirror Aug 2024 #6
Heehee! You went there. brush Aug 2024 #19
He's weird. Wednesdays Aug 2024 #7
Ya know what Traildogbob Aug 2024 #8
Dog parks? He has a problem with dog parks?? tulipsandroses Aug 2024 #12
Dog parks take up real estate that should be for children. Ocelot II Aug 2024 #13
This is such a silly complaint. The dog parks take up a small amount of space, in comparison to the sprawl of the rest tulipsandroses Aug 2024 #14
It took some time to discover that Kevin's wife had a name. Michelle. suegeo Aug 2024 #15
Fair play, to find out about Kevin's family... suegeo Aug 2024 #16
College boys upset at seeing a poster of a bra? Brenda Aug 2024 #22
Kick. Merlin Stone "When God was a Woman" suegeo Aug 2024 #17
get that, little ladies? Skittles Aug 2024 #20
A conservative who's against the results of market forces? Bucky Aug 2024 #21

ck4829

(36,122 posts)
1. Then the maternal mortality rate should be *NEGLIGIBLE*, the cost of giving birth should be *NEGLIGIBLE*
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:18 AM
Aug 2024

It's not transcendent to give birth and then go into poverty.

AmBlue

(3,444 posts)
2. Weirdo!
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:20 AM
Aug 2024

I am just so damn tired of these assholes that think they have the right to force THEIR views and religious beliefs down all of OUR throats.

All of this BS is getting bulldozed in November!!!!

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,172 posts)
3. Kevin Roberts, like Trump, speaks in CODES....
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:21 AM
Aug 2024
Kevin Roberts says “contraceptive technologies” as “revolutionary inventions that shape American culture away from abundance, marriage, and family.”

Which is CODE for "We want more WHITE couples to have babies they cannot afford to have so that we do not become a minority population within a generation."

Who can argue with that?

Ocelot II

(121,473 posts)
4. Now it's dog parks; not content with insulting cat ladies,
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:27 AM
Aug 2024

they're going after dog owners - dog parks are anti-family because those areas should be for children instead of dogs. "Roberts rails against the Swampoodle dog park in Washington, D.C., for having too much room for dogs to play and not enough for children, blaming this on “the antifamily culture shaping legislation, regulation, and enforcement throughout our sprawling government.”" Fuckin' weirdo.

OK, dog people, it's your turn.

lastlib

(24,986 posts)
9. That made me barf.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 12:12 PM
Aug 2024

These holier-than-thou f*ckwads need to shove it back up their trumphole and STAY the F*CK OUT of people's private lives. If a woman wants children but cannot conceive naturally, she has a perfect RIGHT to seek other means. It comes under that "pursuit of happiness" umbrella that they never read.

lastlib

(24,986 posts)
11. And if they DON'T want children, that is also their right.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 12:17 PM
Aug 2024

They have no duty to procreate if they wish not to, for WHATEVER reason they see fit

Kevin and his clown-wits need to go sit on a few cactuses. Saguaros.

Got a perfect one for ya here, Kevin.

brush

(58,022 posts)
5. F_ck this busybody in everyone's bedroom and business. Let him keep talking, getting his views out there as he's...
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:30 AM
Aug 2024

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helping us Dems defeat the in-everybody's-business rethugs in the upcoming election.

And this guy (he of the "the second American revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it), is not an old curmudgeon. He's relatively young but thinks he and the rethugs should regulate everybody's business..in bedrooms, closets, monitoring womens' periods...I mean, COME ON.

IMO more voters will not stand for this crap than will want to go along wih it.

Let the uptight busybody keep talking.

More voters are turning to our energetic and appealing VP for leadership.

The rethug attitude of "you must have childern, it's expected", is not what people want to hear.

brush

(58,022 posts)
18. Yeah, some nerve.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 05:47 PM
Aug 2024

Not appropriate, but appropriate to your post...the Spanish language has a phrase for it: Qué cojones!

Stardust Mirror

(620 posts)
6. somebody posted earlier here on DU that
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:38 AM
Aug 2024

the reason so many women are childless is because they keep meeting men like JD Vance

Traildogbob

(10,193 posts)
8. Ya know what
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:58 AM
Aug 2024

People with children should be and probably are,
the least likely to vote for a party that intend to poison water, air, Food, with zero regulations, strip health care from them, eliminate public education, tell them what they can and can’t read, at risk daily of being shredded with war toys, and never have a vote again to fix it.

Ocelot II

(121,473 posts)
13. Dog parks take up real estate that should be for children.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 12:24 PM
Aug 2024

People who have dogs are taking their dogs to dog parks to play when they should be having children and not wasting time, energy, money and real estate on dogs. If you have a dog you're probably just as bad as a cat lady, maybe even worse, because at least there aren't cat parks taking up real estate that should be for children.

tulipsandroses

(6,241 posts)
14. This is such a silly complaint. The dog parks take up a small amount of space, in comparison to the sprawl of the rest
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 12:35 PM
Aug 2024

of the park. At least the parks around here. Good grief. What next? Take down the basketball courts? Only have baseball fields?

Aside from me trying to sarcastic. All those people that support republicans, because they want to own the libs or anti abortion, anti immigrant or anti anything, should understand, it never stops with the people you dislike. Sooner or later they come after something you like.

suegeo

(2,830 posts)
15. It took some time to discover that Kevin's wife had a name. Michelle.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 01:10 PM
Aug 2024

Mrs. Kevin Roberts!

https://wyofile.com/wyomings-catholic-cowboy-could-remake-government-if-trump-wins/

Wyoming, he said, proved to be a life-changing experience. By now, he and his wife Michelle had four kids, and the family bought a home in the foothills of the Wind River Range outside Lander. Michelle home-schooled the kids, who roamed the surrounding hilltop property like playful mountain goats.


The people of Lander, WY didn't appreciate Kevin's prudishness. Probably don't want him to return to Wyoming when the Heritage Foundation gets bored with him.

Some Lander residents chafed at his prudish school policies and how they sometimes spilled over into the often-rowdy town, a mecca for rock climbers and adventurers drawn to the towering Wind River peaks nearby.

In 2015, for example, a gathering of the Wind River Pride organization in City Park was countered by a college-sponsored “traditional marriage picnic” a week later in the same spot.

Shop owner Susan Meeker tired of Catholic college co-eds coming into her women’s clothing store on Main Street to complain that window bra displays were upsetting male students.

“I was having a bra fitting event and fundraiser for the Susan G. Komen Foundation for breast cancer,” said Meeker, who now lives in Colorado, “and I had a poster with a picture of a woman wearing a bra. Nothing trashy, slutty or whatever. Just a very sensible bra. These students came in all upset and wanted me to take it down.”


In the biographies of Kevin that I read, he rarely, if ever, mentions his family.

Rather pompous Kevin just bloviates and lectures and goes on and on and on. Blah blah blah

Kevin is Opus Dei. Big Catholic white guy (I mean that in the worst way possible).

His wife homeschooled the 4 kids that his wife created in her body, I assume.

It's almost like the wife and children are his appendages. Un-unnamed children. Un-named wife in most of the stuff I've read.

Moving "his" family all over the country so that he can pursue his dreams. Does he ever think about his wife and kids or are they tools used to promote himself to a higher spot in the patriarchy?

Why doesn't Mr. Kevin exploit his wife and kids for $. Like that tradwife on Ballerina Ranch does.

Michelle could start an Instagram account, show how she cooks, cleans, does other household chores, and provide homeschool tips and tricks. Monetize the wife and kids, Kevin.

suegeo

(2,830 posts)
16. Fair play, to find out about Kevin's family...
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 01:15 PM
Aug 2024

..since he wants his beliefs about family to be applied to the rest of us.

I figured he would talk about his wife and kids more. Model how he runs his family.
Barely a peep.

Brenda

(1,355 posts)
22. College boys upset at seeing a poster of a bra?
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 05:27 AM
Aug 2024

Have they ever been to a pool or beach? Watched TV?

Good Godz, it appears that large swaths of America have mysteriously crossed into an alternate universe. Well, more like multiverses.

Some appear to be back in the 1950's or 1850's but some appear to be entirely alien.

Boys upset at bras my ass.

Skittles

(160,304 posts)
20. get that, little ladies?
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 06:07 PM
Aug 2024

forget birth control, pop those kids out regardless of how you feel about it. It's your DESTINY!

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
21. A conservative who's against the results of market forces?
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 06:24 PM
Aug 2024
They shift norms, incentives, and choices, often invisibly and involuntarily.


Families not having kids and taking their dogs to the park are the result of the choices that drive market demand. He wants the government to directly choose the incentives that people respond to.

That ain't free market conservatism. That's high church patriarchal anti-republicanism conservatism.
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