But the thought of gathering "intelligence" from Trump made me

Why bug his plane? He pretty much just says whatever he wants regardless of what secrets he shouldn't be sharing publicly.

stupid fuck is always shooting off his mouth, a mixture of gibberish and classified info - it never fucking ends

He wants his cut if somebody is bugging him. It wouldn't surprise me to discover Putin told him where to place listening devices on that 90 minute phone call.

Dementia Donald is so out of it most of the time who knows what he is telling people and what they are telling him.

But educator speak for intelligence and spy/military terms for intelligence are very different.

Information probably -- smarts, not a snowball's chance in hell

Just buy a membership to Merde Lardo and use the bathroom.

You'll find every piece of intelligence you ever wanted there.

it's not like they were hired for their intelligence and competence

... that the flight controls could be remotely disabled and sent into an uncontrolled nosedive. Or that the countermeasures (if any ever existed) could also be disabled. The on-board wifi could have had a key-logger that captured text messages and passwords.

What a fucking waste of money... all for an fragile little ego.

Killing off Trump means he's replaced with someone who won't be our frenemies' lapdog.

On the other hand, the keylogger system is a definite possibility, as are satellite feeds that send any audio from inside the plane to a collection bird for relay to the Kremlin.

More like keeping it from being secured here. He is convinced that this is his plane and once he is out of office, that he will just keep it.

Like a lot of other things he has done during his time in the Oval Office. I would not be surprised if he wanted to empty out the White House once he leaves.

Just as I would not be surprised if we let him.

And… It was outfitted by the highest no-bid contract.

Pathetic.

Throw a tarp over it.

IIIRC, on 9/11, when they had Shrub up in the air for hours and hours in AF1 due to not knowing how many planes were co-opted as weapons, there was a fuel jet in the convoy with the fighter jets escorting AF1.

How much tax payers dollars went into this fucking albatross

That should be IMPEACHABLE shit.

It was a completely unnecessary and expensive expenditure.

An albatross or a Potemkin Chicken.

Trump is a traitor. God knows what intel he’s already given away. I would suggest a case could be made for Aileen Cannon suborning treason.

Y'know. The big movie. Something about a horse.

Perhaps there was a health scare.

...which also by nature need to emit some sort of signal--RF, acoustic, EMF, optical--which should make them easier to detect than merely intelligence gathering sensors.

My suspicion is that the hurried retrofitting of the aircraft means that it does not posses the full defensive capabilities of the VC-25A and someone finally lost enough sleep over it to grow a spine after seeing how effective Iran has been with the very limited resources they still have. Believing a handheld rocket of some sort could bring down the underdefended Graft Force One is likely what caused this panic.

It is also interesting that "passengers on the aircraft were instructed to keep their windows down during the flight, and according to flight data, the plane carrying the president did not turn on its tracker until it was over the Black Sea near Istanbul." ( https://abcnews.com/Politics/secret-service-urged-trump-depart-turkey-air-force/story?id=134606227 )

Why did passengers have to keep their window shades down?

Ah..Quite frankly, Donald Trump would be on the Jet....which means there's zero Intelligence.

(And Panetta misspoke a bit about the plane being built in "another country". It was built by Boeing in the US. The interiors, however, were installed in another country. Minor point. But, still.)

Aircraft procured for presidential use are monitored throughout the entire manufacturing process, or are thoroughly inspected to the point of nearly being disassembled before they're certified for use by POTUS. Most of the lifetime of the Qatari 747 so far has been spent outside of this monitoring window. So, nothing can be trusted. Most of a presidential aircraft is essentially a SCIF for open discussion of sensitive topics.

Behind the panels and under the floors are wiring bundles so numerous and complex, anything could be hidden in there - bugging devices, cutters, poisons, acids, communications, anything. It would be impossible to properly inspect all of it without removing it all and going through it strand by strand. Did they do that?

Every electronic box in the plane - from avionics to the panels that operate ovens - could have circuitry in them, right down to the circuit board - or even chip - level, that could be used to monitor, commandeer or disable that device or the whole aircraft. There are hundreds of boxes in the plane. Did they remove every one and test them?

There could be secret fuel cut-off valves installed in the engines that could be remotely actuated.

Did they inspect every cubic inch of the fuel tanks? Could be explosives in there. Or capsules of corrosive agents that could release over time and eat the fuel tank walls or contaminate the fuel at random times causing engines to malfuntion over the Atlantic.

Tracking devices can be as small as a sugar cube. Have they inspected every interior volume - the wings, the vertical stabilizer, the engine nacelles - for the presence of questionable or unknown devices? This is a true needle in a haystack.

Has the plane been swept for radioactive materials? Pellets of - or even dust treated with - polonium could be placed anywhere to gradually drag down the health of anyone on the plane.

The Qatari AF1 is a literal Trojan Horse. The military was stupid for even considering letting US leaders fly on the plane. I'm surprised they could find legit military pilots willing to fly it.

otto pilot.

I don't know, but it's possible. You've outlined a lot of stuff that could have happened ... and there's a lot the secret service doesn't know about this plane.

If there really is a Chump "double" he would have had to disappear as soon as the real Chump arrives. But that wouldn't have been too hard, I don't think. All the TV cameras were pointed at the real one, not at the "double."

would have covered what you posted, which, btw, shows a good deal of imagination. Glad we have you on our side.

The true amount is classified but it could have been nearly a billion. Snopes.

of course this is much more serious

It will be loaded to the gills with spyware.

found the "communications" devices.

I seriously doubt that its has very little defensive or evasive systems on it. Iran, Turkey's neighbor has lots of big fat missiles that would love a juicy target. They have already shown their ability to reach far away targets, and are itching for revenge.

Rising hostilities with Iran required President Donald Trump to shift to his original, more advanced presidential aircraft.

Whether it is a Reflecting Pool, the economy, or a 747, Donald Trump is shockingly incompetent at making things work.

— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2026-07-09T13:16:07.073Z

on the airplane