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BumRushDaShow

(171,571 posts)
Mon May 4, 2026, 06:20 AM Yesterday

NATO's Rutte Says Europeans Have 'Gotten Message' From Trump

Source: US News & World Report/Reuters

May 4, 2026, at 2:53 a.m.


BRUSSELS, May 4 (Reuters) - ⁠European ⁠nations have "gotten the message" ⁠from U.S. President Donald Trump and are ​now ensuring that agreements on the use of military bases are ‌being implemented, NATO Secretary ‌General Mark Rutte said on Monday.

Trump has accused ⁠some NATO ⁠nations of not doing enough to support the United ​States in the Iran war. In a further sign of his discontent with European allies, the U.S. announced on Friday ​plans to withdraw 5,000 troops from Germany.

"Yes, there has been ⁠some ⁠disappointment from the U.S. ⁠side, ​but Europeans have listened," Rutte told reporters at a European ​Political Community summit ⁠in Armenia. "They are now making sure that all the bilateral basing agreements are being implemented," he said.

NATO member Spain has said that military bases on its territory cannot ⁠be used for the war with Iran. But Rutte said ⁠other NATO countries such as Montenegro, Croatia, Romania, Portugal, Greece, Italy, Britain, France and Germany were implementing requests for the use of bases and other logistical support.

Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2026-05-04/natos-rutte-says-europeans-have-gotten-message-from-trump

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NATO's Rutte Says Europeans Have 'Gotten Message' From Trump (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Yesterday OP
That's unfortunate JBTaurus83 Yesterday #1
Question... Is Europe really that different from us? ananda Yesterday #2
Those are things that go back far before Christianity even existed. cstanleytech Yesterday #3
No they don't. ananda Yesterday #6
Slavery and genocide predate Christianity by thousands of years is what I'm saying. cstanleytech Yesterday #7
OK, but my point was that European countries were practicing... ananda Yesterday #8
Not only European countries Polybius 21 hrs ago #10
So Europe just continues to do whatever Trump wants. SamuelAdams Yesterday #4
Rutte's talking out of his ass wrt Italy Prairie Gates Yesterday #5
This is why I have little confidence in Europe's collective leadership fujiyamasan Yesterday #9

ananda

(35,406 posts)
2. Question... Is Europe really that different from us?
Mon May 4, 2026, 06:56 AM
Yesterday

Aren't we all societies built on forms
of slavery and genocide held in place
by the christan crusade and missionary
spirit?

ananda

(35,406 posts)
6. No they don't.
Mon May 4, 2026, 12:11 PM
Yesterday

This lasted through Nazi Germany.

Many countries in Europe had slave colonies
during the 19th century, and the Catholic
Church has been missionizing all kinds of
countries through the 20th century... all of
it vicious and cruel.

Just look at Queen Victoria's family... they
were autocrats in several countries for quite
a while.

ananda

(35,406 posts)
8. OK, but my point was that European countries were practicing...
Mon May 4, 2026, 04:30 PM
Yesterday

slavery, genocide, and missionizing well into the 20th century.

Their wealth, like that of America, is based on it... and the
classism and racism behind it has not disappeared anywhere.

Polybius

(22,059 posts)
10. Not only European countries
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:26 PM
21 hrs ago

Slavery was highly prevalent in Asian and African countries as well.

SamuelAdams

(131 posts)
4. So Europe just continues to do whatever Trump wants.
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:19 AM
Yesterday

It's like when your kid throws a temper tantrum in the grocery store so you buy him candy.

Prairie Gates

(8,408 posts)
5. Rutte's talking out of his ass wrt Italy
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:25 AM
Yesterday

Nothing has changed in the disposition of the air bases: OK for logistics, no go for offensive launches.

fujiyamasan

(1,971 posts)
9. This is why I have little confidence in Europe's collective leadership
Mon May 4, 2026, 05:11 PM
Yesterday

They have little to no leverage. It’s absolutely pathetic.

I think some individual members may get sick of this bending over backwards to placate Trump. We’re seeing Macron taking a more independent stance.

Rutte is a fucking loser though.

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