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mysteryowl

(9,096 posts) Wed Jan 21, 2026, 04:17 PM Jan 21

US court allows ICE to arrest and pepper-spray peaceful protesters in Minnesota

Source: The Guardian/US

An appeals court has temporarily lifted restrictions from a federal judge in Minnesota that blocked ICE agents from pepper-spraying and arresting peaceful protesters.

In a victory for the Trump administration, the eighth US circuit court of appeals on Wednesday granted the justice department's request for an administrative stay of a preliminary injunction issued last Friday by Judge Katherine Menendez.

Menendez's preliminary injunction would have prohibited ICE agents from retaliating against peaceful protesters, arresting or detaining people who are participating in peaceful protests, using pepper spray or similar non-lethal munitions and crowd dispersal tools, as well as stopping or detaining drivers without reasonable cause.

When Menendez imposed the restrictions, she ruled that federal immigration agents' actions had a "chilling effect" on protesters' first amendment rights.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/21/ice-arrest-pepper-spray-protesters-minnesota

Wow! It is okay for feds to arrest peaceful protesters!

There is a horrific picture at this link.
ICE is spraying a chemical agent directly into the face of a protester that is on the ground!
https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426

Live: Appeals court pauses order mandating ICE not 'retaliate' against protesters.
A federal appeals court has paused an injunction barring immigration agents from "retaliating" against peaceful protesters and observers in Minnesota.

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US court allows ICE to arrest and pepper-spray peaceful protesters in Minnesota (Original Post) mysteryowl Jan 21 OP

Arm the protesters. The Grand Illuminist Jan 21 #1

The eighth circuit is almost entirely made of republican appointees fujiyamasan Jan 21 #4

Legal geography in action roscoeroscoe Jan 22 #39

what a GREAT idea ! stopdiggin Jan 21 #11

Remind me about the lack of 'warrant' when they are kicking in your door. OldBaldy1701E Jan 21 #19

and the 'solution' is for 'protesters' to arm themselves ... stopdiggin Jan 22 #35

Umm... OldBaldy1701E Jan 22 #40

if they are - they are almost certainly concealing that status stopdiggin Jan 22 #46

Oh, I don't have to ask. OldBaldy1701E Jan 22 #47

Umm hmmm stopdiggin Jan 22 #48

I replied that I agree with you, in that your statement is the attitude that I see every day. OldBaldy1701E Jan 23 #49

I did misinterpret there - and apologies are tendered stopdiggin Jan 23 #50

No need. Tempers are high these days. OldBaldy1701E Jan 23 #52

There goes the FIRST Amendment. They will now claim that filming.... Bread and Circuses Jan 21 #2

Buy xtra and hand them out at protests. sagetea Jan 21 #26

How is there even standing for this? They denied doing it and refused to comply SSJVegeta Jan 21 #3

Supposedly because Vance is coming to Minnesota mysteryowl Jan 21 #5

Um... there isn't? It's a bum ruling... malthaussen Jan 21 #22

bum ruling ? vapor2 Jan 21 #32

Or, fight back. OldBaldy1701E Jan 22 #41

F that! electric_blue68 Jan 21 #6

The right to harass and hurt without cause bfoxmatt Jan 21 #7

Disgusting! All the Menendez' injunction said was to comply with the law! SunSeeker Jan 21 #8

This is just an administrative stay, and not on the merits (but still... ugh) BumRushDaShow Jan 21 #9

Not on the merits of the case, BUT bluestarone Jan 21 #13

That's always been the running issue with these stays BumRushDaShow Jan 21 #25

Agree! bluestarone Jan 21 #27

What I posted just upthread was all there was BumRushDaShow Jan 21 #28

The courts are adding to it. travelingthrulife Jan 22 #44

We have a terrible judicial system. Totally out of touch with reality. travelingthrulife Jan 22 #43

Yep, PERFECT STORM!! bluestarone Jan 22 #45

Not on the merits - but to be clear, the title would be incorrect even if it were FBaggins Jan 22 #36

Well this administration prefers to do what it wants when it wants BumRushDaShow Jan 22 #38

police state. Evolve Dammit Jan 21 #10

How the FUCK do you "justify" that?! William Seger Jan 21 #12

because they can't and lack all reason vapor2 Jan 21 #33

Opening the floodgates for arrest and/or shooting protestors Bayard Jan 21 #14

So when the shoe is on the other foot Quanto Magnus Jan 21 #15

When it happens to them they will start whining about government overreach again. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 21 #17

This bfucking court just gave the jan 6st monsters MORE and MORE bluestarone Jan 21 #16

Ft Campbell Army Deploying for MN duckworth969 Jan 21 #18

So our First Amendment is dead in Minnesota? StarryNite Jan 21 #20

That is not going to be the only thing 'dead' around here if they do this. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jan 21 #23

Actually, Minnesotans are doing very well protesting, mysteryowl Jan 21 #29

The protesters are doing absolutely amazing! StarryNite Jan 21 #31

I'm screaming inside at the injustice of this whole thing. mysteryowl Jan 21 #34

I hope every one of those judges become victims of ICE. mdbl Jan 21 #21

They would need some pigment to their skin. mysteryowl Jan 21 #30

Has to be the same thugs spraying Capitol Police with bear spray on Jan 6 surfered Jan 21 #24

Does anyone have this judge' address? perdita9 Jan 22 #37

Question. Why can't the state of Min. (govenor Walz) get an IMMEDIATE supreme court hearing on this? bluestarone Jan 22 #42

Here's a tally: we can't depend on the Constitution, the judiciary, the House, the Senate, the USSC or the military in2herbs Jan 23 #51

Only phony judges would allow such a thing in the USA Mysterian Jan 23 #53

The Grand Illuminist

(2,031 posts)

1. Arm the protesters.

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 04:20 PM

Jan 21

fujiyamasan

(1,476 posts)

4. The eighth circuit is almost entirely made of republican appointees

Reply to The Grand Illuminist (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 04:24 PM

Jan 21

There’s one judge on it appointed by Obama. Basically a rubber stamp for Trump.

roscoeroscoe

(1,825 posts)

39. Legal geography in action

Reply to fujiyamasan (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:26 AM

Jan 22

Go where the courts are your friend. Predictable strategy

stopdiggin

(15,278 posts)

11. what a GREAT idea !

Reply to The Grand Illuminist (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 04:55 PM

Jan 21

could expound further - but this level of discourse really doesn't warrant the effort ...

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OldBaldy1701E

(10,848 posts)

19. Remind me about the lack of 'warrant' when they are kicking in your door.

Reply to stopdiggin (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 06:04 PM

Jan 21

Think they won't?

Yeah, I imagine many other people sitting at Fort Snelling thought that as well.

stopdiggin

(15,278 posts)

35. and the 'solution' is for 'protesters' to arm themselves ...

Reply to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 01:54 AM

Jan 22

GENIUS !!

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OldBaldy1701E

(10,848 posts)

40. Umm...

Reply to stopdiggin (Reply #35)

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:10 AM

Jan 22

What makes you think there were not already 'armed protestors' at these events?

stopdiggin

(15,278 posts)

46. if they are - they are almost certainly concealing that status

Reply to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #40)

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:14 PM

Jan 22

from the round and virtually universal condemnation of their fellows.
NOBODY has any truck with this kind of peabrained (and thoroughly juvenile) behavior. And certainly don't want to be standing next to this genius on the line. If discovered - you will be strongly encouraged to remove yourself. (and further - perhaps find yourself another 'hobby' or cause .. ? ) You are NOT welcome here!

I am not marching with morons!
And, ask around if you think that attitude is an outlier.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,848 posts)

47. Oh, I don't have to ask.

Reply to stopdiggin (Reply #46)

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 03:51 PM

Jan 22

I see it every time I read about protests.

Good luck.

stopdiggin

(15,278 posts)

48. Umm hmmm

Reply to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #47)

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:17 PM

Jan 22

and virtually none of the rest of us have eyes ...

OldBaldy1701E

(10,848 posts)

49. I replied that I agree with you, in that your statement is the attitude that I see every day.

Reply to stopdiggin (Reply #48)

Fri Jan 23, 2026, 09:22 AM

Jan 23

I did not think it was confusing, but whatever.

stopdiggin

(15,278 posts)

50. I did misinterpret there - and apologies are tendered

Reply to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #49)

Fri Jan 23, 2026, 10:53 AM

Jan 23

we all catch enough grief just walking around every day. Not my intent to add on ...

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OldBaldy1701E

(10,848 posts)

52. No need. Tempers are high these days.

Reply to stopdiggin (Reply #50)

Fri Jan 23, 2026, 05:40 PM

Jan 23

We are so busy looking to make sure our message is intact, that sometimes we misinterpret input that is intended to be helpful.

Humans... what are ya gonna do?

Bread and Circuses

(1,791 posts)

2. There goes the FIRST Amendment. They will now claim that filming....

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 04:22 PM

Jan 21

At a distance is worthy of pepper spray.

We need to buy full face gas masks NOW!

sagetea

(1,554 posts)

26. Buy xtra and hand them out at protests.

Reply to Bread and Circuses (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 06:41 PM

Jan 21

Those who can, anyway.

sage

SSJVegeta

(2,610 posts)

3. How is there even standing for this? They denied doing it and refused to comply

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 04:22 PM

Jan 21

Then appealed so that they can do the thing they claimed they weren’t doing but said they are still going to do.

mysteryowl

(9,096 posts)

5. Supposedly because Vance is coming to Minnesota

Reply to SSJVegeta (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 04:26 PM

Jan 21

malthaussen

(18,528 posts)

22. Um... there isn't? It's a bum ruling...

Reply to SSJVegeta (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 06:25 PM

Jan 21

... by a bunch of bums.

-- Mal

vapor2

(4,233 posts)

32. bum ruling ?

Reply to malthaussen (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 08:50 PM

Jan 21

it's fucking insanity by this court. So ok to pepper spray and arrest peaceful protesters AND it's ok to shoot a woman in the head 3 times. I need to leave this lawless country

OldBaldy1701E

(10,848 posts)

41. Or, fight back.

Reply to vapor2 (Reply #32)

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:13 AM

Jan 22

Man, that 'Never damage or dispute your masters' programming is tough to crack, isn't it?

electric_blue68

(26,633 posts)

6. F that!

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 04:29 PM

Jan 21

bfoxmatt

(49 posts)

7. The right to harass and hurt without cause

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 04:29 PM

Jan 21

Sick individuals and there are too many of them in our government!

SunSeeker

(58,088 posts)

8. Disgusting! All the Menendez' injunction said was to comply with the law!

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 04:34 PM

Jan 21

BumRushDaShow

(167,983 posts)

9. This is just an administrative stay, and not on the merits (but still... ugh)

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 04:37 PM

Jan 21

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bluestarone

(21,882 posts)

13. Not on the merits of the case, BUT

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 05:29 PM

Jan 21

How long can ICE destroy peoples lives in this country? WHEN will the merits be heard?

BumRushDaShow

(167,983 posts)

25. That's always been the running issue with these stays

Reply to bluestarone (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 06:37 PM

Jan 21

IMHO, if something that is going on that is causing "harm", then there should be a stay of the "harm".

bluestarone

(21,882 posts)

27. Agree!

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #25)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 06:42 PM

Jan 21

No reason was given, right?

BumRushDaShow

(167,983 posts)

28. What I posted just upthread was all there was

Reply to bluestarone (Reply #27)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 06:46 PM

Jan 21

Didn't see for how long but it could be for however long is needed to get the panel assigned to do the review.

The courts are truly feeling the "flood the zone" litigation strategy that 45 and his minions had promised.

travelingthrulife

(4,985 posts)

44. The courts are adding to it.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:06 AM

Jan 22

travelingthrulife

(4,985 posts)

43. We have a terrible judicial system. Totally out of touch with reality.

Reply to bluestarone (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:05 AM

Jan 22

bluestarone

(21,882 posts)

45. Yep, PERFECT STORM!!

Reply to travelingthrulife (Reply #43)

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:07 AM

Jan 22

FBaggins

(28,678 posts)

36. Not on the merits - but to be clear, the title would be incorrect even if it were

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 05:01 AM

Jan 22

A court being told that it lacks the jurisdiction to order someone not to do something illegal does not mean that the thing is no longer illegal.

BumRushDaShow

(167,983 posts)

38. Well this administration prefers to do what it wants when it wants

Reply to FBaggins (Reply #36)

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 06:28 AM

Jan 22

no matter what the courts say, until really smacked down a few times... so...

Evolve Dammit

(21,692 posts)

10. police state.

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 04:49 PM

Jan 21

William Seger

(12,349 posts)

12. How the FUCK do you "justify" that?!

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 05:28 PM

Jan 21

"The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit did not explain its reasoning."

vapor2

(4,233 posts)

33. because they can't and lack all reason

Reply to William Seger (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 08:52 PM

Jan 21

Bayard

(29,191 posts)

14. Opening the floodgates for arrest and/or shooting protestors

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 05:35 PM

Jan 21

And trump wants to save Iranian protestors from these actions.

Quanto Magnus

(1,320 posts)

15. So when the shoe is on the other foot

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 05:37 PM

Jan 21

these MAGAts will be fine when they start getting pepper sprayed and arrested for protesting.

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,179 posts)

17. When it happens to them they will start whining about government overreach again.

Reply to Quanto Magnus (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 05:56 PM

Jan 21

They're a bunch of Randy Weavers when it comes to the government harassing white supremacists. When it comes to rounding up brown people, they love to lick the boot.

bluestarone

(21,882 posts)

16. This bfucking court just gave the jan 6st monsters MORE and MORE

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 05:43 PM

Jan 21

reasons to hurt ANY Minnesota citizens. THEY are gonna hurt, just to hurt because this court just opened season on residents!!

duckworth969

(1,327 posts)

18. Ft Campbell Army Deploying for MN

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 06:01 PM

Jan 21

https://apnews.com/article/army-deployment-minnesota-immigration-insurrection-act-31a28c23045bfdb31b27f68507a68ca8?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share

StarryNite

(12,080 posts)

20. So our First Amendment is dead in Minnesota?

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 06:06 PM

Jan 21

OldBaldy1701E

(10,848 posts)

23. That is not going to be the only thing 'dead' around here if they do this. (n/t)

Reply to StarryNite (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 06:25 PM

Jan 21

mysteryowl

(9,096 posts)

29. Actually, Minnesotans are doing very well protesting,

Reply to StarryNite (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 08:06 PM

Jan 21

which is why they are trying to stop "we the people".

StarryNite

(12,080 posts)

31. The protesters are doing absolutely amazing!

Reply to mysteryowl (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 08:36 PM

Jan 21

Peaceful protests are protected by our First Amendment. But the court is now apparently saying that what they are doing is grounds for being pepper sprayed and arrested. And that is total bullshit!

mysteryowl

(9,096 posts)

34. I'm screaming inside at the injustice of this whole thing.

Reply to StarryNite (Reply #31)

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 09:01 PM

Jan 21

The order is a temporary one. They wanted to keep their violent tactics in place for the Vance Minnesota visit tomorrow.

I guess the 8th circuit US court is all repukes!!

It won't hold.