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BumRushDaShow

(165,156 posts)
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:15 AM Saturday

'This is strange': Trump fans baffled by puny turnout at North Carolina rally

Source: Raw Story

December 20, 2025 7:43AM ET


Donald Trump's rally in tiny Rocky Mount, North Carolina drew a smaller than expected crowd to the economically distressed region, leaving merchandise vendors and supporters disheartened.

According to interviews conducted by the Washington Post, the presidential visit was marked by a sense of disappointment and disillusionment as Trump touted economic growth claims that contrasted sharply with the visible hardship surrounding the Rocky Mount Events Center.

One Trump merchandise vendor struggled to move inventory, marking MAGA beanies down to $5 without success. When addressing the reduced price, 18-year-old Thomas Schafer responded, "I don't have $5. We're really broke. It's Christmas time, man."

Post reporter Natalie Allison noted that regions like Rocky Mount face significant economic challenges ahead, as enhanced subsidies for Affordable Care Act plans—available for the past five years—are expected to expire in the coming year. This economic anxiety likely contributed to lower attendance than Trump typically draws.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-small-crowds/

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'This is strange': Trump fans baffled by puny turnout at North Carolina rally (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Saturday OP
That is actually strange SSJVegeta Saturday #1
Pity durablend Saturday #2
I Live About 45 Minutes From Rocky Mount... GB_RN Saturday #32
+100000000000000000000% agree with you there as I have absolutely no sympathy for any Trump supporter. cstanleytech Saturday #42
Well, *duh*. Ocelot II Saturday #3
"" AllaN01Bear Saturday #24
Who wouldn't be happy... LakeVermilion Saturday #4
2 would be better, gab13by13 Saturday #11
The perfect shit sandwich! nt SunSeeker Saturday #16
"... touted economic growth claims that contrasted sharply with" REALITY! (nt) William Seger Saturday #5
I hate to say this but historically his crowd size doesn't always mean those people won't mucifer Saturday #6
Agree. NCDem47 Saturday #13
They want to feel like winners Keepthesoulalive Saturday #29
That just means they're ripe for ongoing GOP con jobs. Beartracks Sunday #49
They will not have the same energy Keepthesoulalive Sunday #52
"...(if he's not dead or in a drooling state by then)" 3catwoman3 Saturday #31
Yep. progressoid Saturday #46
I have no doubt Vance is positioning himself for 2028. ShazzieB Sunday #54
It is an indicator of low enthusiasm BaronChocula Saturday #22
Or, maybe crowd size doesn't matter when you or your family own the voting apparatus live love laugh Saturday #37
Economically distressed region BOSSHOG Saturday #7
Rethugs Fiddlelady11 Saturday #27
May everyone have the holidays they voted for! Grokenstein Saturday #8
unfortunately, folks who didn't vote for him suffer just as much as those who did. onenote Saturday #12
He hasnt lost any core support. LuvLoogie Saturday #9
Fuck him and his stupid marks Blue Owl Saturday #10
They do not need to wonder, they need to accept the inevidable. marble falls Saturday #14
Friday night snowybirdie Saturday #15
"Trump claimed a massive turnout and falsely stated that crowds of people outside were waiting to enter the venue" progree Saturday #17
I was disappointed in thread title word "puny" - I thought it meant the Ugly Pig was there. Wonder Why Saturday #18
they have beanies .. ? maybe with propellers .. ? Hell, I'll put in an order right now! stopdiggin Saturday #19
Why would ANYONE attend? nikatnyte Saturday #20
The merchandise vendors are the true victims here. Why won't flvegan Saturday #21
The Post reporter is groping for reasons. It's simple. More and more people hate him. flashman13 Saturday #23
Why so baffled? Who the hell wants to see a shitshow in real life? sakabatou Saturday #25
The cult Icanthinkformyself Saturday #26
Welcome to Karma. Martin68 Saturday #28
Rocky Mount, NC, isn't exactly tiny--around 54,000 people. And, while it is only around 28% white... Ol Janx Spirit Saturday #30
For some reason, even after posting the OP, your post just triggered a memory for me BumRushDaShow Saturday #33
Oh wow. Tragic and insane at the same time. Thanks for posting. Ol Janx Spirit Saturday #34
How many is puny? Red Mountain Saturday #35
One of the vendors said he was packing up early and also said he was disappointed wolfie001 Saturday #38
"Fewer than expected" is all that the article reveals. TheRickles Saturday #40
They were quoting from a WaPo article BumRushDaShow Saturday #44
Original WaPo article, paywall free.... reACTIONary Saturday #47
Thank you. BumRushDaShow Sunday #53
Most of those mountain folk were nasty to Biden after that hurricane hit wolfie001 Saturday #36
They couldn't have expected much of a crowd dflprincess Saturday #39
Is this crowd like 200 people what is this rally LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #41
Look how small that box of paid props is behind the lectern. Bluetus Saturday #45
The saddest day in our nation's history is when Trump's father failed to pull out in time. cstanleytech Saturday #43
The losers still clapped and cheered for his orange ass vapor2 Saturday #48
It's not everyday these idiots get to see a has been... Justice matters. Sunday #50
Why should they show up for the man Mblaze Sunday #51
Trump fans are baffled by a lot of things. Borogove Sunday #55

durablend

(8,880 posts)
2. Pity
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:34 AM
Saturday
One Trump merchandise vendor struggled to move inventory, marking MAGA beanies down to $5 without success. When addressing the reduced price, 18-year-old Thomas Schafer responded, "I don't have $5. We're really broke. It's Christmas time, man."


Maybe get a job or something?

GB_RN

(3,501 posts)
32. I Live About 45 Minutes From Rocky Mount...
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 02:54 PM
Saturday

In a much larger city with a major, academic medical center (which is where I work as an RN). Many of the people here in Eastern NC relied on tobacco and other farm products - in one way or another - as their source of income. The tobacco settlement and urbanization of this area has really crushed places like RM. And of course, state and federal politicians have done jack shit to help. So, it’s easy to understand their anger and frustration. The Reichwing bastards running the state legislature are excellent at manipulating them and happy to take advantage of their constituents’ miseries. Again, while doing nothing to help.

All that said, I have no sympathy left for them. They have voted - and continue to vote for leopards eating faces, thinking it’s the rest of us who get eaten. And they refuse to face the fact that they voted to have their own faces eaten.

Screw ‘em.

cstanleytech

(28,167 posts)
42. +100000000000000000000% agree with you there as I have absolutely no sympathy for any Trump supporter.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 07:45 PM
Saturday

mucifer

(25,501 posts)
6. I hate to say this but historically his crowd size doesn't always mean those people won't
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:38 AM
Saturday

vote for him.

NCDem47

(3,315 posts)
13. Agree.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 12:13 PM
Saturday

I do think his everyday voters (Republicans of more moderate stripes and "soft" MAGAs) have gone back underground after doing their damage in November 2024. They have some shame, but they won't admit it and will fall in line for Vance, Rubio, or whoever in 2028. Plenty of inisde WH intel that the 2028 talk for Trump is allllllll trolling and pot-stirring up until the last possible moment when he hands off to someone else (if he's not dead or in a drooling state by then)

Keepthesoulalive

(2,097 posts)
29. They want to feel like winners
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 02:32 PM
Saturday

When you don’t get your food stamps, your health insurance is unaffordable and there are no jobs and you have been laid off. His fantasies don’t match your reality you don’t feel like a winner you feel like a sucker.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,097 posts)
52. They will not have the same energy
Sun Dec 21, 2025, 01:33 AM
Sunday

They felt connected to trump. They believed he was a successful businessman because of the tv show. To a certain group of people he is a charismatic and that is very hard to replicate. Republicans loved Reagan but this Grateful Dead traveling cult circus is something I have never seen in politics. I hope to never see it again.

3catwoman3

(28,484 posts)
31. "...(if he's not dead or in a drooling state by then)"
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 02:50 PM
Saturday

Oh please, oh please, oh please!

progressoid

(52,502 posts)
46. Yep.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 09:11 PM
Saturday

After he croaks, we'll still have 30-70 million of his voters to deal with.

I have a feeling the opportunist VP Vance is waiting in the wings to take over. He could be even worse.

ShazzieB

(22,148 posts)
54. I have no doubt Vance is positioning himself for 2028.
Sun Dec 21, 2025, 10:12 AM
Sunday

So is Rubio. I'm sure there are others as well. I have a feeling the 2028 GOP presidential primaries are going to be a real slugfest.

BaronChocula

(3,967 posts)
22. It is an indicator of low enthusiasm
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 01:20 PM
Saturday

Low enthusiasm impacts the upcoming vote cycle. No party wants low enthusiasm on their side heading into midterms.

live love laugh

(16,172 posts)
37. Or, maybe crowd size doesn't matter when you or your family own the voting apparatus
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 04:34 PM
Saturday

where it counts most.

That’s also how you “win” campaigning on cats and dogs, Arnold Palmer’s penis size and simulated blow jobs…that and a Republican owned media that covers none of this in detail or at all.

BOSSHOG

(44,601 posts)
7. Economically distressed region
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:39 AM
Saturday

Republicans don’t need the billionaire votes and they’re losing the economically distressed votes. Results baby results. It’s as if they question the morals of a rapist and a convicted felon.

LuvLoogie

(8,471 posts)
9. He hasnt lost any core support.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:48 AM
Saturday

This is NOT a change in his base or their core values. Their too busy posting laugh emojis at the ICE kidnappings. That's why Bovino is upping his presence.

snowybirdie

(6,545 posts)
15. Friday night
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 12:37 PM
Saturday

Before Christmas.........
Christmas shopping
Christmas party's
Big playoff college game with Alabama
Travel to relatives
Said the same crap on Wednesday
Getting totally shit faced because its almost Christmas and Trump is President

progree

(12,711 posts)
17. "Trump claimed a massive turnout and falsely stated that crowds of people outside were waiting to enter the venue"
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 12:45 PM
Saturday

from the article.

stopdiggin

(14,917 posts)
19. they have beanies .. ? maybe with propellers .. ? Hell, I'll put in an order right now!
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 12:53 PM
Saturday

Cousin Earle and n' his wife Betty Lou - gonna' be happier n' a pig in slops !!

nikatnyte

(337 posts)
20. Why would ANYONE attend?
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 01:07 PM
Saturday

Listening to an addled old man lie about how good everything is (when you know it isn'r) and listen to him brag on and on about acing cognitive tests? Is that how anyone wants to spend the holiday season? I. Just. Don't. Get. It.

flvegan

(65,680 posts)
21. The merchandise vendors are the true victims here. Why won't
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 01:16 PM
Saturday

anyone think of the Made In China MAGA America First merch?

Ol Janx Spirit

(609 posts)
30. Rocky Mount, NC, isn't exactly tiny--around 54,000 people. And, while it is only around 28% white...
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 02:34 PM
Saturday

...it is only about 50 miles east-northeast of Raleigh--the state capital.

So, despite all of the other things happening on a typical holiday Friday night, the small turnout seems odd.

It seems especially odd given how much Susie Wiles really needs a win this week in the Slob Father's eyes.

Was this a swing and a miss; poor planning; a gross miscalculation?

Or, is it a signal of something bigger happening to an aging one-trick pony that is not really great at that one trick anymore?

Happy holidays Susie! Happy. F'n. Holidays....

BumRushDaShow

(165,156 posts)
33. For some reason, even after posting the OP, your post just triggered a memory for me
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 03:27 PM
Saturday

I.e., a good-sized tornado hit there in July 2023 and heavily damaged a Pfizer pharmaceutical plant there. They started up some production that September 2023 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143134889



And per a comment to the above video (which is a news report that was uploaded last year about the incident the year before), Pfizer apparently laid off "thousands" just a few months ago.

And then I stumbled on this about this tornado -



Ol Janx Spirit

(609 posts)
34. Oh wow. Tragic and insane at the same time. Thanks for posting.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 04:08 PM
Saturday

It's hard to imagine having a CT-centric brain.

I've always wanted to turn the CT concept towards a conspiracy theorist and just see how their brain would fare when everything they did in their daily life was turned into a crazy CT--even convincing their friends that everything they did was some nefarious scheme to deceive them.

Luckily, I do not have any in my life to try this out on....

I do love seeing the recent spate of right-wingers turning on each other with CTs.

wolfie001

(6,954 posts)
38. One of the vendors said he was packing up early and also said he was disappointed
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 04:34 PM
Saturday

Sounds like it was a few broke people that showed up. Good.

TheRickles

(3,122 posts)
40. "Fewer than expected" is all that the article reveals.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 07:04 PM
Saturday

Which tells you nothing, but after all it's Raw Story....

wolfie001

(6,954 posts)
36. Most of those mountain folk were nasty to Biden after that hurricane hit
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 04:30 PM
Saturday

I saw their Shit Toks and their piling on. Now they have a thieving conman running the Govt. Sucks to be them.

dflprincess

(29,135 posts)
39. They couldn't have expected much of a crowd
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 05:06 PM
Saturday

The venue he spoke at has a max capacity of 5,000

Bluetus

(2,188 posts)
45. Look how small that box of paid props is behind the lectern.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 08:59 PM
Saturday

Last edited Sat Dec 20, 2025, 10:07 PM - Edit history (1)

That looks like about 75 paid people. That saves a little money if the camera stays on a tight shot.

Justice matters.

(9,281 posts)
50. It's not everyday these idiots get to see a has been...
Sun Dec 21, 2025, 12:49 AM
Sunday

reality teevee host in person... the smell though...

Mblaze

(917 posts)
51. Why should they show up for the man
Sun Dec 21, 2025, 01:30 AM
Sunday

who continually lied to them about the FEMA response to their 2024 Hurricane Helene disaster under Biden by telling them not to trust FEMA because they would confiscate their houses and then, as President, refused FEMA money to assist them in their recovery?

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