The second was that Science makes sense and, more importantly, is PROVABLE.

Religions are fake.

..and not a minute too soon.

Daddy Billy would have kicked out of the house and told him never to return if he wasn’t wearing a muzzle while suffering from laryngitis.

"Daddy Billy" was a goddamn fraudster too. He was most adept at brainwashing and controlling his feeble-minded followers into supporting right-wing corporate fascism contrary to their own best economic interests. Mostly through playing on their fear of going to hell. Like they all do! His corporate and political elite buddies didn't buy his "holy holy" bullshit one fucking wit. They knew he was working for them. Guns, god, & gays baby! He was practically the genesis of this whole sick fucking cult. And he sure made his millions and lived the "life style". A motherfucking con-man all day long and was as big a part of the right's "long con" as any of the bastards all the way back to, and before, Lewis Powell. Franklin is just more comfortable being open about what their dirty fucking game is really all about.

Father Billy was a grifter par excellence.

I recall reading an article in Time about him in the 1970's and they mentioned his $200 pair of shoes, and I thought what a charlatan he was.

$200 was a good chunk of money then that could have been used to help the needy, and that huckster was spending it on shoes. And I'm certain he had more than one pair.

people during VN war.

They want permission to hate.

They are both grifting hypocrites. It's people like them that give religion a bad name.

If there were a God, Franklin would have been called home 2 seconds after making this statement.

We treated them as two completely different characters, OT was Yaweh and NT was God

Not sure how seriously to take that, but it's a thought.

etc. are in fact, totally opposite of what they are claiming.

Besides 'Love thy neighbor', You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

In Dante’s 9th level of Hell.

DISGUSTING

to fit the desires of the psychopath in charge, rather than people who represent the actual message of the religion concerned for the time of year. It's a way of the Trump regime trying to dictate to all Christians how they should be a Christian (in this case, by ignoring what the "Christ" section of the bible says in favour of a mythical bit of the Old Testament that most Jews today would say is a violent message that their religion moved on from a couple of thousand years ago).

Trump checks all the boxes, and if Hegseth hasn't checked them all yet, he's getting close to it

Why?

Because Sodom was
“arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.” (Ezekiel 16)

Franklin Graham left out that part, where his God hates those who don’t help the poor and needy.

was desert and people will die if not allowed in.

I was raised as a lutheran so I was always taught that the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was homosexuality. It wasn't until I was an adult that I heard the Jewish interpretation was that the sin was being unwelcoming to a stranger.

My interpretation was that the guy willing to throw his daughters out to the mob to be raped was problematic.

of Christ but worship the Old Testament god. Anyone with a functioning brain should be able to see that it’s a different god. Like comedian Lewis Black has said in the past, apparently God took anger management classes between the Old Testament and the New Testament.

They cling to the Old Testament (the Torah) and ignore the writings of Jesus, his Apostles (the Gospels) and the later-converted author Paul/Saul.

It is unfortunate that his letters survived.

introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.

-- 2 Peter 2:1-2.

There's a Bible verse he should probably pay close attention to.

That bloodthirsty "God" even killed 70,000 of his "chosen people" simply as punishment for King David because David counted them.

But you are a Christian, right? Don't you believe in the Christian revolution? I'm not Christian but I can read.

Jesus said: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

He also said: “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous,

Jesus never sent his flock to brutally wipe out his "enemies". Read up on your book and figure it out. You are just another political/religious opportunist.

So tired of the Christian belief being distorted and used to justify exactly those things that it does not stand for.

.....is supposed to return with the 4 horsemen and wield a sword to cut off the heads of non-believers. My money's on The Flying Spaghetti Monster

and if he doesn't wonder that, he should!

That kinda' reminds me of some disgusting human partners.

I left the most important part for last . . .

Frank....are you on the Epstein list?

I have no love lost on any of the Grahams... especially Billy. But this is NOT what he taught, and for this being the legacy he left behind for his son to perpetuate is totally evil and a lie. Franklin will get his one of these days. Billy was all up into the GOP, but it took Franklin and Putin and MAGA/trump to really bring together the evil triumvirate.

And what a wonderful message for the Christmas season. God HATES you... get used to it. God doesn't mean love; god means war and total annihilation. Franklin Graham is right -- if you concentrate on the Old Testament. But JESUS is the New Testament; and it seems to be an entire section of the Bible of which Franklin Graham is totally ignorant. I might suggest he take his Bible... maybe even look into a different translation or two... and do some intense studying. Before he turns people away from Christianity now and forevermore. Most people do not want to be associated with a religion that spews hate.

"You' can justify in the end" - One Tin Soldier

Saw "Billy Jack" back in the day and this song always stuck with me

to refute this blasphemous idiot. And bring up the New Covenant, which IIRC replaced all that Old Testament trash with the message of Jesus Christ. No, I'm not religious but Christ is a definite upgrade on the tribal war stuff in the Old Testament.

Cashing in on/ tarnishing daddy's name. Grifters don't fall far from the tree...

Let the soldiers know they're committing atrocities in the name of a spiteful God that leads them into battle.

Onward Christian soldiers,
Marching off to war.
With the cross of Jesus
Going on before.

And I will NEVER accept this level of bullshit.

Drives them nuts.

A good example of why people are leaving Christianity.

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The dude pimps his wife out so he can pleasure himself while she's cucking him.

Republicans apparently approve of this.

Mrs. Falwell would do the nasty with the pool boy while Jerry Jr. watched from the corner.

It's the angry, spiteful, vengeful Jehovah all the way. Christmas is entirely New Testament. They've lost the plot.

Evangelicals always quote the OLD Testament or sources in the Torah and other related.


So, Franklin Graham is a Lying, NON - Christian. I don’t know what spirituality he is . But…


NOT a followers of Christ.

The Beatitudes are the teachings of Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5:1-10). Jesus teaches us that if we live according to the Beatitudes, we will live a happy Christian life

https://s3staging.loyolapress.com/catholic-resources/scripture-and-tradition/catholic-basics/catholic-beliefs-and-practices/the-beatitudes/

i am a new testiment kind of guy.

All the gay-hating stuff is in the OT. All the "God being a dick" stuff is in the OT. There is virtually none of that in the Jesus half of the bible.

It never made any sense for these two things to be squeezed together.

They are attributed to Moses.
He said that the rest is simply commentary.
And, if you're either a Catholic or Christian you should be following the New Testament.

Full disclosure: Atheist here.

écrasez l'infâme

Many of these Evangelical pastors have been seduced by political power and wealth. But as the bible says, one cannot serve God and mammon both. Seems like Franklin chose unwisely.

He is trying to imply a holy war in which "god" hates the enemies of the United States and our military are holy warriors of hate and war for Jesus.

God doesn't make war. Humans make war and transfer such actions to God to make it OK.
God isn't cruel or vindictive, humans are.
It's very easy for someone to put their words in God's mouth, and pretend that their words are God's words.
It's easy to pretend that God has all the same failings as humanity. Actually, God couldn't be God and express any hateful, violent actions or calls to action.
The old testament is filled with this stuff. It's not the word of God.
The only time war is OK is when it's in defense of family, or nation.

Some of Wilfred Owen's poetry contrasts Christ with church and political leaders in England, like in this poem.
It was also set by Benjamin Britten in his War Requiem.
Unfortunately, he was killed in action a week before the WW I armistice.

At A Calvary Near The Ancre

One ever hangs where shelled roads part.
In this war He too lost a limb,
But His disciples hide apart;
And now the Soldiers bear with Him.

Near Golgotha strolls many a priest,
And in their faces there is pride
That they were flesh-marked by the Beast
By whom the gentle Christ's denied

The scribes on all the people shove
And bawl allegiance to the state,
But they who love the greater love
Lay down their life; they do not hate.

These religious “leaders” always know EXACTLY what some all-powerful, never visible, never audible (except by them, of course) deity wants, and apparently ONLY they know. Their god must have more heads than a Hindu icon, because they all know that he wants something different.

God is male, and treats his creation as dispensable playthings.

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and matter of all the universes in space and time loves all of His creation.

Graham has no authority to go by but Jesus. But he doesn't. As is the legacy of that protesting denomination, he refuses, and like his church's human founder, carries forward error.
That humanity can't spread peace without use of force has been its major ongoing problem. And Graham continues that error to justify the U.S. military's killing by claiming that God hates.

They have inflicted greater suffering, death and destruction upon humanity than any other single societal construct.

Reason is 'god'.
Doubt is our 'savior'.

FFS

ignore the teachings of Christ.

Lectionary readings for the week with brief descriptions

Isaiah 7 the prophecy of virgin birth
Psalm 80 save us again line you did out of Egypt
Matthew 1:18 angel coming to Joseph part of advent story
Romans 1...intro that puts Jesus as fulfillment of prophesy

You gotta be some kind of special hateful intolerant bigot to get to that sermon from first the point of advent and second that list of scripture.

Joy, hope, love and peace are the the typical four weeks of advent.

Hypocritical asshat.

I was busy inventorying the laundry facility in the basement. Gotta keep track of all them coat hangers, ya know!

They finally went fully around the bend.