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demmiblue

(39,161 posts)
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 12:54 PM Dec 16

House Republican leaders ditch vote on ACA funding, all but ensuring premiums will rise

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — It's official: House Speaker Mike Johnson says he won't call a vote to extend enhanced subsidies under the Affordable Care Act, effectively guaranteeing they will expire at the end of this month.

That means higher insurance premiums will go into effect for millions of Americans who get coverage through Obamacare next year.

The speaker made the announcement Tuesday after a closed-door Republican caucus meeting, saying that leadership failed to reach a deal with centrist members to bring up an ACA amendment on a health care bill set for a vote on Wednesday.

“There’s about a dozen members in the conference that are in these swing districts who are fighting hard to make sure they reduce costs for all of their constituents. And many of them did want to vote on this Obamacare Covid-era subsidy that Democrats created,” Johnson, R-La., told reporters. “We looked for a way to try to allow for that pressure release valve, and it just was not to be. We worked on it all the way through the weekend, in fact. And in the end there was not an agreement — it wasn’t made.”

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-ditch-vote-obamacare-funding-premiums-rise-2026-rcna249521

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House Republican leaders ditch vote on ACA funding, all but ensuring premiums will rise (Original Post) demmiblue Dec 16 OP
Death by Republican negligence C_U_L8R Dec 16 #1
Another nail in the coffin of Johnson's speakership Jose Garcia Dec 16 #2
Yup. patphil Dec 16 #35
From Republican Rep Lawler off of MS NOW Bengus81 Dec 16 #51
What happened to dweller Dec 16 #3
That's my guess BaronChocula Dec 16 #10
Yeh I looked first dweller Dec 16 #12
There are at least 3 different discharge petitions but none have the necessary 218 signatures yet Wiz Imp Dec 16 #29
Dicks no_hypocrisy Dec 16 #4
This is about the right's unwarranted opposition to the ACA. J_William_Ryan Dec 16 #5
Obama Derangement Syndrome BaronChocula Dec 16 #15
I've been trying hard to figure out WHY they were doing this..... lastlib Dec 16 #24
That is EXACTLY the intention, and nobody has ever tried to conceal that Bluetus Dec 16 #33
You're right, but it still doesn't explain WHY--- lastlib Dec 16 #37
The ""why" is obvious Bluetus Dec 16 #40
They'll Quanto Magnus Dec 16 #43
Don't think so,people have been watching this like a hawk. They've been back since Nov 12th Bengus81 Dec 16 #49
they simply do not care Skittles Dec 16 #47
There is no way Traildogbob Dec 16 #6
Thanks to all the idiots that voted for him. mdbl Dec 16 #21
Oh, but we will hear all about how terrible their lives are because Democrats haven't fixed it yet. Volaris Dec 16 #23
Party of Death wolfie001 Dec 16 #7
That is for sure... sdfernando Dec 16 #13
Murderers. SalamanderSleeps Dec 16 #8
Mikey knows that the extensions would pass. Mblaze Dec 16 #9
Yeah, they would pass the House, but they already failed in the Senate and Trump wouldn't sign it anyway even if the Wiz Imp Dec 16 #17
If that was true a discharge petition would have been successful MichMan Dec 16 #18
It took awhile but the discharge petition has arrived. Mblaze Wednesday #54
Hey Johnson, thank you, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 16 #11
What a surprise! WestMichRad Dec 16 #14
GOP are POS Pas-de-Calais Dec 16 #16
Remember when they accused Democrats of being the DEATH PANEL Dems? We can NEVER bluestarone Dec 16 #19
The bosses of Palin paid her to say that. But it's insurance companies themselves who employ death panels. ancianita Dec 16 #38
We The People Remember...Midterms Are Coming CapnSteve Dec 16 #20
If this remains true the Ds should not fight. Instead they should be shouting that with the Rs destruction in2herbs Dec 16 #22
Everything they touch dies orangecrush Dec 16 #25
For one pre-eminent reason: Republicans do NOT know how to govern or get one damn thing done for The People. ancianita Dec 16 #26
They don't want to. We're being systemically robbed from every direction. ... littlemissmartypants Dec 16 #28
They say that because, not really knowing how to govern, they have to be TOLD by P2025 what to do. ancianita Dec 16 #36
Law degree or not if you're a psychopath it's immaterial. littlemissmartypants Wednesday #53
The GOP has just declared they're holding hands for their mass suicide. Vinca Dec 16 #27
Thanks for remembering the farmers, Vinca. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Dec 16 #31
What really bothers me is this. WinstonSmith4740 Dec 16 #30
Their plan: Bankrupt then kill Americans BigmanPigman Dec 16 #32
On a slow roll depopulation plan -- kill them by sickening them. Good thing Gov Newsom is forming a healthcare alliance ancianita Dec 16 #42
Disaster Capitalism in play; destroy the ACA so desperate people will accept a more pro-corporate solution Auggie Dec 16 #34
Next step, making health insurance madatory and Prairie_Seagull Dec 16 #39
When the ACA was passed it was mandatory with fines for not having insurance MichMan Dec 16 #41
Going down a rabbit hole, Prairie_Seagull Dec 16 #44
Further, I believe between now and the mid-terms Prairie_Seagull Dec 16 #45
I think it will be along the likes of Medicare Advantage ... Auggie Dec 16 #46
Well hell Gang of eight, how that em..."promise" work out? Bengus81 Dec 16 #48
That was in the Senate. MichMan Dec 16 #50
They must really want to lose. RandySF Dec 16 #52

C_U_L8R

(48,794 posts)
1. Death by Republican negligence
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 12:59 PM
Dec 16

We’re being slowly drowned in the bathtub, just as they said they’d do

patphil

(8,670 posts)
35. Yup.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 03:36 PM
Dec 16

He's becoming toxic for republicans in close races, and will be replaced in January.

Bengus81

(9,758 posts)
51. From Republican Rep Lawler off of MS NOW
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 06:28 PM
Dec 16

“I am pissed, for the American people,” Lawler said. “This is absolute bullshit, and it’s absurd that we are in a body with 435 members. Everybody has a responsibility to serve their district, to serve their constituents. You know what’s funny? Three-quarters of people on Obamacare are in states Donald Trump won.

Wiz Imp

(8,746 posts)
29. There are at least 3 different discharge petitions but none have the necessary 218 signatures yet
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 03:16 PM
Dec 16

But they remain alive. So after this stunt by Johnson, it may get some Republicans to sign on to the one that all Democrats have already signed (for a 3 year extension).

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5650083-aobamacare-subsidies-amendment-vote/

Amendment to extend ObamaCare subsidies hits roadblock
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.) and other GOP centrists are planning to introduce an amendment in the House Rules Committee on Tuesday that pairs a two-year extension of the subsidies with eligibility reforms, according to a House GOP staffer who spoke on the condition of anonymity. But GOP leadership insisted the extension needed to be offset with spending cuts — a demand the moderates balked at. Conservatives opposed to extending the subsidies have frequently cited the cost, which is estimated to be at least $35 billion per year.
snip
A majority of Democrats will also likely vote against the GOP bill, regardless. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) slammed the package as “toxic legislation that is completely unserious.” He told MS NOW last week that even if the measure is amended, it’s not clear to him “that it will actually solve the problem of addressing the Republican health crisis.”
snip
One petition would force action on Fitzpatrick and Golden’s bill. Another would force action on a bill by Reps. Jen Kiggans (R-Va.) and Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.) to extend the subsidies for one year with modest adjustments to eligibility. Both efforts have some GOP signatures on them but would still require significant Democratic support. Jeffries said last week he was “actively reviewing” both and that he’ll have more to say about it early this week. “We’re going to evaluate every single good faith proposal, but it has to meaningfully provide certainty to the American people who are at risk of having their health care ripped away from them,” he said.
snip
Jeffries and other Democrats have also been pressing Republicans to join their discharge petition to advance a three-year extension of the ACA subsidies. The effort is just four Republican signatures short of the 218 needed to move forward.


J_William_Ryan

(3,280 posts)
5. This is about the right's unwarranted opposition to the ACA.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 01:17 PM
Dec 16

This has to do with Republicans’ long ongoing efforts to destroy the ACA – unable to repeal the Act, Republicans seek to cripple the ACA by ending access to affordable healthcare.

The right’s meritless contempt for the ACA has nothing to do with its provisions and everything to do with the president who signed the Act into law.

BaronChocula

(3,967 posts)
15. Obama Derangement Syndrome
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 01:56 PM
Dec 16

Last edited Tue Dec 16, 2025, 06:10 PM - Edit history (2)

Or as it's more commonly known, racism.

State rep Kris Crawford spelled it out 12 years ago.
Note: Crawford a republican physician was calling out other republicans who opposed ACA Medicaid expansion.

‘It is good politics to oppose the black guy in the White House’
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna51171700

lastlib

(27,419 posts)
24. I've been trying hard to figure out WHY they were doing this.....
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 02:49 PM
Dec 16

They couldn't succeed in repealing it, so they're basically knee-capping it. By driving people out of it due to cost, they intend to cripple it, and get it to die of its own weight.

And yet, the puzzling part is WHY, given the likely electoral consequences of doing this to the millions of voters using it. It has to be asking for electoral disaster for them to be screwing up people's lives like this. I can't see it being done to curry favor with the insurance companies, which does them no good if they don't have the political power that comes from election wins. I don't think Obama-hate alone can motivate them to potentially wreck their political power. It makes no sense.

Bluetus

(2,189 posts)
33. That is EXACTLY the intention, and nobody has ever tried to conceal that
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 03:29 PM
Dec 16

They were hoping Dems would cave in, with another "meet us halfway to the grave" proposal. It will cause enormous pain, but it is better for the public to see this than for Dems to silently go along with the slow death of the ACA.

Now we must make this a major point of the mid-term elections.

lastlib

(27,419 posts)
37. You're right, but it still doesn't explain WHY---
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 03:47 PM
Dec 16

What do they gain from killing the ACA, if they lose political power as a result?

Could this be a "test-run" for Social Security/Medicare? I don't see that flying either.

Bluetus

(2,189 posts)
40. The ""why" is obvious
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 04:10 PM
Dec 16

$125 billion.

They already gave that $125 billion (and much more) to Musk, Ellison, Bezos and the others in the 0.1%. And as a result, Trump's economy has increased the debt by over $700 billion in just the first 2 months of fiscal year 2026, which is a rate that would take the $38 TRILLION debt to $42 TRILLION by the end of this fiscal year.

$125 billion is truly a drop in the ocean, but out of principle, they just can't do anything that benefits the American people. Their dogma says that these insane policies will create "the hottest economy in the world" and everything will work out great in the end. But the fact is that all but one of the recessions since WWII have started under Republican Presidents and Republican fiscal policies.

Why? That's who they are. It is what they always do.

Bengus81

(9,758 posts)
49. Don't think so,people have been watching this like a hawk. They've been back since Nov 12th
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 05:58 PM
Dec 16

They could have voted on that bill twenty times.

Traildogbob

(12,451 posts)
6. There is no way
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 01:23 PM
Dec 16

In Hell trump was ever gonna allow his sheep to pass that extension. EVER!!!! He and they tried nearly 100 times in his first appointment as president to kill Obama care. He hates Obama for making fun of him at the Media Banquet for all to see and laugh.
A black man dare Mock him? His second biggest embarrassment was McCain with the thumbs down. Now, this is his guaranteed opportunity to kill Obama Care and stick it to the black man. It is dead in the water.
None of his cult in office would survive his wrath to extend the subsidies. It WAS “Never ever ever” (like a Taylor ex) gonna get passed.
None of them give a single fuck about the American people that will die. Not one fuck, and a large percentage are his red hat dumbasses.
But the spill over that will affect ALL insurance coverage will hit us all.
Health insurance will become just like home insurance on the coast of Florida or anywhere in the GULF of MEXICO. Ask anyone in the path of Katrina if they can afford flood insurance?
All the destruction from the shut down meant nothing to them. They would have kept it up through Christmas, while smirking at their evil and the cards we were dealt. The smirks they all proudly wear. All his billionaire friends planted in our government.
Like Moses Mike and that prick over finance and spending that swear we are exploding with a great economy.
Voting, especially not voting, consequences are upon us. We are all gonna suffer, and lots will die or became homeless and bankrupt. While the smirking Billionaires become multi Billionaires. (tax free billionaires) Merry Christmas (for white Jesus) Happy Next Year (another year minimum) of hell. If the world is not dead, like its inhabitants, self inflicted.
God Bless America??? Nope, he saw he was wasting his time.

mdbl

(8,020 posts)
21. Thanks to all the idiots that voted for him.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 02:32 PM
Dec 16

I don't feel bad for them if their insurance rates skyrocket. They voted for it.

Volaris

(11,355 posts)
23. Oh, but we will hear all about how terrible their lives are because Democrats haven't fixed it yet.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 02:46 PM
Dec 16

Were about a month away from that bullshit starting...

wolfie001

(6,957 posts)
7. Party of Death
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 01:25 PM
Dec 16

Only millionaires and billionaires will be taken care of by these christo-fascists.

sdfernando

(6,007 posts)
13. That is for sure...
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 01:52 PM
Dec 16

Last night I just watched the movie "The Island"....wouldn't surprise me at all if this were to come true.

Wiz Imp

(8,746 posts)
17. Yeah, they would pass the House, but they already failed in the Senate and Trump wouldn't sign it anyway even if the
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 02:03 PM
Dec 16

Senate passed it. It shows how stupid Johnson is and how his political views consist entirely of exactly what Trump tells him to do. Allowing a vote and letting some Republicans in swing districts vote for it could help a few of them win reelection. With no vote, he's making it far more likely that all those districts go Blue. If he had any political skill at all, he would realize that and allow the vote. Instead, he's writing his own political obituary.

Mblaze

(917 posts)
54. It took awhile but the discharge petition has arrived.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 11:34 AM
Wednesday

We'll find out if it is successful.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
11. Hey Johnson, thank you,
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 01:51 PM
Dec 16

you just guaranteed a Democratic takeover in the House and, fingers crossed, the Senate and you lose your speakership.
Good job there MAGAt.

Tragically, because of you and your MAGAt loyalists, millions of Americans are going to lose their health insurance because of cost and millions more will see their premiums rise dramatically.

bluestarone

(21,057 posts)
19. Remember when they accused Democrats of being the DEATH PANEL Dems? We can NEVER
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 02:09 PM
Dec 16

Allow Americans to forget that! Shout high and low next year. REPUBLICONS ARE THE DEATH PANEL group! Shout LOUD and OFTEN!!

ancianita

(42,763 posts)
38. The bosses of Palin paid her to say that. But it's insurance companies themselves who employ death panels.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 03:50 PM
Dec 16

We had to learn about that at the time, and big corps made sure their political tools like Palin deflected onto Democrats as the culprits so that big corps dark money could hide behind corporate deep state layers of decisionmaking that denied health insurance claims to pay for their skyscraper offices.

CapnSteve

(385 posts)
20. We The People Remember...Midterms Are Coming
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 02:28 PM
Dec 16

Thank you, small-minded republicans! The blue tsunami just keeps getting bigger and bigger...

in2herbs

(4,158 posts)
22. If this remains true the Ds should not fight. Instead they should be shouting that with the Rs destruction
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 02:38 PM
Dec 16

of the ACA the only option is Universal Healthcare.

ancianita

(42,763 posts)
26. For one pre-eminent reason: Republicans do NOT know how to govern or get one damn thing done for The People.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 03:00 PM
Dec 16

littlemissmartypants

(31,437 posts)
28. They don't want to. We're being systemically robbed from every direction. ...
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 03:16 PM
Dec 16

They are halfway through P2025 one year in. We're in bigger trouble than most Americans know.

ancianita

(42,763 posts)
36. They say that because, not really knowing how to govern, they have to be TOLD by P2025 what to do.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 03:40 PM
Dec 16

Remember, more than anything else, that they COULD NOT come up with an alternative health care plan for the ACA. AND that they believe in governing power by Rule of Men, not by Rule of Law.

Why?

Because 24% of all Republican members of Congress have law degrees. In the House of Representatives, 52 Republicans (approximately 12% of the chamber's total 435 members) hold law degrees. Which means that 88% DO NOT.
In the Senate, 21 Republicans (21% of the 100 members) hold law degrees. FOR BOTH HOUSES, THAT'S IT.

In the House, Democrats have 85 lawyer-legislators compared to 52 Republicans.
In the Senate, approximately 47 senators (47% of the Senate) hold law degrees.
Democrats outnumber Republicans among these lawyer-legislators, with 25 Democrats to 21 Republicans

Democrats hold way more law degrees, and know the importance of of Rule of Law in the longest standing democracy in human history.

They DO NOT KNOW HOW TO GOVERN.

So they (and the felon) follow the Koch Heritage oligarch network's orders. They follow the power of money over the power of Law. Because they're tools of the rich. The rich want to be above the Rule of Law.
And so injustice is at the core of this government restructured and paid to serve the rich.

Knowing the numbers matters.

littlemissmartypants

(31,437 posts)
53. Law degree or not if you're a psychopath it's immaterial.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 07:47 AM
Wednesday

These people are laser focused on destruction. Governance is the furthest thought from their minds and definitely NOT part of the agenda.

The entire point is chaos.

Tell me what do they want to do FOR America?

They are successful in their inaction and desire for destruction. Those are the goals. "Government" by, for, of ... isn't even on the agenda.

Vinca

(53,220 posts)
27. The GOP has just declared they're holding hands for their mass suicide.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 03:09 PM
Dec 16

Do they think it's just the "libtards" who buy insurance on the ACA? This will be yet another big hit for the farmers (among others).

WinstonSmith4740

(3,412 posts)
30. What really bothers me is this.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 03:16 PM
Dec 16

These guys KNOW what they're doing is wildly unpopular. Their constituents have been screaming at them at town hall meetings, and I'm sure in emails & phone calls. They know what will happen when the subsidies expire. They know how much this will hurt and infuriate not only Dems, but their rethug supporters. And they don't care. Holy Mike will never be able to convince anyone they really tried to find a way to extend the subsidies. They've been trying to destroy the ACA since it started...this will be their pathway.

So either there are some rethugs who have finally discovered a conscious, and are willing to give up their cushy seat in the House, but don't want their families and lives threatened by openly defying that maniac and having his crazy minions show up at their house, OR (and this is the scary part for me) they already know the fix is in, just like 2024, and they have nothing to worry about when the election rolls around...the machines are already programmed to make sure they win. Remember that somehow Trump won all the swing states. Also, remember Musk said the quiet part out loud...if it weren't for him, Trump would have lost, and both the House and Senate would be in Democratic hands. And I don't think he was referring to the financial contributions.

ancianita

(42,763 posts)
42. On a slow roll depopulation plan -- kill them by sickening them. Good thing Gov Newsom is forming a healthcare alliance
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 04:45 PM
Dec 16

across blue states using all the old fired expertise of former world class scientists and doctors at the CDC. Having the 4th largest economy on the planet and the population of 21 states helps make that work at scale again.

https://archive.ph/FLlvQ

Auggie

(32,819 posts)
34. Disaster Capitalism in play; destroy the ACA so desperate people will accept a more pro-corporate solution
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 03:32 PM
Dec 16

MichMan

(16,532 posts)
41. When the ACA was passed it was mandatory with fines for not having insurance
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 04:42 PM
Dec 16

I believe the courts ruled it unconstitutional. I do remember them saying after it was passed that it would be so affordable that everyone would want to have it.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,588 posts)
44. Going down a rabbit hole,
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 04:58 PM
Dec 16

stumpy could do an EO saying there is a continued national economic emergency. Or the like.

I used to say that there is just no way this...person would do X.

I no longer believe this.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,588 posts)
45. Further, I believe between now and the mid-terms
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 05:02 PM
Dec 16

It is not much of a stretch to think the congress will be very active.

Auggie

(32,819 posts)
46. I think it will be along the likes of Medicare Advantage ...
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 05:24 PM
Dec 16

a really low monthly premium with a very high yearly deductible with claims denials built in. Networks will be run by companies you've never heard of -- hastily-put together publicly-traded companies and private equity with doctors under their control.

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