So awful.

Their son Nick, who was arrested for their murder, has a long history of drug abuse, rehab (at least 15 times) and homelessness. Addiction, alcoholism and mental illness runs through multiple generations of my family. While we have no murders, the "collateral damage" that addiction and mental illness inflicts is ENORMOUS. It's a miracle that my niece, with 2 addicts for parents, is a fairly normal, smart, hardworking young lady.

Extreme sadness, fear and guilt come with addiction, especially when it’s you own child. As a parent we try everything to help our addicted child become clean and sober. We send them to rehabs and therapists. We buy them food, help them find a place to live. We plead and beg with them to stop. We shut them out. We tough love them. We hug them. We love them. We pray for them. We bandage their wounds. We bail them out of legal woes. We find them jobs. We do not give up. We cry and cry and cry.

My son

You are not alone, sadly there are so many.

You encapsulated it perfectly.

if the mental health field could have continued to develop, minus the "emptying of the asylums" by Reagan. Just throw the least able to cope out onto the streets to survive any way they could. There are a lot of things Reagan did... or began... that led us to this point. And I blame him for trump as much as I blame trump's father for not wearing a condom!

He always had a home with his living parents. I think it is disrespectful of them to refer to him as homeless, as it implies they had turned their backs on him.

It is so extremely difficult as a parent, loved one, to cope with an addict’s behaviors and actions. The pull to them for their fix outweighs their family home. Sometimes the parents aren’t fit, so they can’t go home.

Please don’t judge. Try instead to understand.

Just incredibly heartbreaking.

I suspect he wasn't stable to start with and was put over the edge by the more toxic meth that has resulted from the ephedra bans and Pseudoephedrine restrictions. A type of unintended consequence, the suppliers went from Mom & Pop small labs to large ones. And they shifted their production to different methods using different starting ingredients. That stuff accelerates the Meth decline from 10-20 years down to less than 2 years. Worse it leads to a psychotic world view.

If you know anyone with problems with Alcohol, opiates or stimulants suggest they look for an offshore Ibogaine treatment spot, there are some great ones just south of Tijuana and on the gulf coast of Mexico.

Thank you for sharing this information.

I can't get my head around it, even if he was drug addicted. Why take it out on them. And he will be in prison for life for this no doubt

and mainly only seen in "local" news stories, and often by means other than a gun - including stabbing, asphyxiation. blunt-force trauma, poisoning, arson, starvation, and other means.

I saw a report where Rob was apparently involved in an argument with him earlier.

Patricide (father killing) and matricide (mother killing) are rare, making up about 1-2% of U.S. homicides annually, with estimates suggesting over 300 parent killings by children yearly, often linked to abuse or mental health issues, though precise yearly rates vary; studies indicate matricide is especially uncommon, with around 113 arrests yearly for killing mothers between 1976-2007, mostly by adult sons

https://digitalcommons.law.buffalo.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1159&context=book_sections

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that evaluates data collected 30 years ago. Many of the publications admit that there really aren't that many comprehensive studies of it, including recently (much of what was done was from decades ago).

We are in a new world of "the internet" and "social media" that are fueling mental illnesses among teens.

When you live in an urban area like I do, you hear about them locally far more.

And I expect that it is because many cases don't "make the national news" like a "Menendez Brothers" or this case with the Reiners.

As an example, the Sandy Hook one, the shooter (in that case Adam Lanza), killed his mother before he went to the school on his rampage (and then killed himself).

What also doesn't "make the studies" are the "attempteds", where the parent(s) survive(s) the attack.

So what I am saying, although in the scheme of looking at ALL homicides (which is a huge number in the U.S.), it's not as "rare" as it is made out.

ETA - I was scanning news sites and found this featured at the top of "Law and Crime" - 'That girl is dead': Man admitted to friend that he shot missing mom in the head during a fight, police say

That site is a "True Crime" site but also cover politics and they are great because they link to the many court documents for high profile cases (including 45's stuff), that I post here.

The linked case ain't gonna make "national mainstream news" but are on that site as some of the "True Crime" stuff that they follow, which include matricides/patricides.

I think a lot of these cases of parental killings are probably considered and/or lumped under "domestic disputes", and aren't sensationalized with a "plot".

luckily for me on Google the photo of the Reiners showed up without the headline on top, and bc I didn't scroll down any further I didn't even see this news till an e-mail this afternoon!

Damn.
RIP🕯

and I woke up to confirmations early this morning.

and should have been in bed an hour ago... but... here I am.