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BumRushDaShow

(165,755 posts)
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 08:20 AM Dec 15

US security experts say Ukraine's abandonment of NATO goal will not alter peace talks

Source: Reuters

December 14, 2025 12:56 AM EST Updated 3 hours ago


NEW YORK, Dec 14 (Reuters) - Ukraine’s offer to forgo joining the NATO military alliance probably will not significantly change the course of peace talks, two security experts said on Sunday.

During negotiations with U.S. envoys over a potential Ukraine-Russia peace deal, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on Sunday offered to drop Ukraine's NATO aspirations. Zelenskiy had said security guarantees from the United States, Europe and others instead of joining NATO was a compromise from Ukraine.

"This doesn't move the needle at all," said Justin Logan, director of defense and foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute. "It’s an effort to appear reasonable." NATO membership for Ukraine has not been realistic in a long time anyway, said Logan and Andrew Michta, a professor of strategic studies at the University of Florida. Michta called Ukraine's NATO admittance a "non-issue" at this point. There are other ways for nations to try ensuring Ukraine's security, Logan said.

U.S. President Donald Trump, in response to Zelenskiy's offer, may commit to the same things the United States has already done to support Ukraine, such as sending weapons and sanctioning Russia, Logan said. Not everyone dismissed Zelenskiy's offer. Brett Bruen, a former foreign policy adviser in the Obama administration and now head of the Global Situation Room consultancy, called Ukraine's concession "significant and substantive."

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-security-experts-say-ukraines-abandonment-nato-goal-will-not-alter-peace-2025-12-14/

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US security experts say Ukraine's abandonment of NATO goal will not alter peace talks (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 15 OP
Europe will defend Ukraine, NATO or no NATO no_hypocrisy Dec 15 #1
But Putin will attack Ukraine again................... Lovie777 Dec 15 #2
Russia will need to be defeated on the battlefield, unless Putin dies William Seger Dec 15 #3
So basically Trump and Putin still expect Ukraine to give up territory ChicagoTeamster Dec 15 #4
Nothing Ukraine compromises on will be enough for these goons Bayard Dec 15 #5

no_hypocrisy

(54,282 posts)
1. Europe will defend Ukraine, NATO or no NATO
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 08:22 AM
Dec 15

And it will be wholly voluntarily, not dependent upon a treaty.

Lovie777

(21,762 posts)
2. But Putin will attack Ukraine again...................
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 08:34 AM
Dec 15

he is obsessed with the country for all of the bad reasons.

It's important they join, seriously and hope Russia falls because Putin has ruin the economy.

Kinda what shithole is doing to the USA.

William Seger

(12,209 posts)
3. Russia will need to be defeated on the battlefield, unless Putin dies
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 09:17 AM
Dec 15

Like #rump, Putin suffers from a mental illness called power psychosis and lives in a world of delusions of grandeur.

Bayard

(28,577 posts)
5. Nothing Ukraine compromises on will be enough for these goons
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 12:43 PM
Dec 15

They want complete capitulation.

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