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BumRushDaShow

(165,175 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:32 PM Dec 11

Trump seeks to cut restrictions on marijuana through planned order

Source: Washington Post

December 11, 2025 at 6:26 p.m. EST


President Donald Trump is expected to push the government to dramatically loosen federal restrictions on marijuana, reducing oversight of the plant and its derivatives to the same level as some common prescription painkillers and other drugs, according to six people familiar with the discussions.

Trump discussed the plan with House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-Louisiana) in a Wednesday phone call from the Oval Office, said four of the people, who, like the others, spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. The president is expected to seek to ease access to the drug through an upcoming executive order that directs federal agencies to pursue reclassification, the people said.

The move would not legalize or decriminalize marijuana, but it would ease barriers to research and boost the bottom lines of legal businesses. Trump in August said he was “looking at reclassification.” The Biden administration also looked into rescheduling cannabis.

“We’re looking at it. Some people like it, some people hate it,” Trump said this summer. “Some people hate the whole concept of marijuana because it does bad for the children, it does bad for the people that are older than children.”


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/12/11/trump-marijuana-reclassification-executive-order/



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Trump seeks to cut restrictions on marijuana through planned order (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 11 OP
Using Marijuana is safer that drinking alcohol in my opinion. wcmagumba Dec 11 #1
THC is WILDLY safer than alcohol by nearly every possible measure AZJonnie Dec 11 #6
Panic attack is the only documented toxicity IbogaProject Dec 12 #16
That was indeed what I was specifically addressing in this case, correct :) AZJonnie Dec 12 #17
Post removed Post removed Dec 12 #20
Long overdue...hope it happens. walkingman Dec 11 #2
Good idea. They are only doing it because they need to finally make a policy move that people actually want. nt Blasphemer Dec 11 #3
Pretty Astounding, Really. I Have Given My Inner Cynic Just Enough Sedative to Leave it at That The Roux Comes First Dec 11 #4
He Want a WIN! Mr.Bee Dec 11 #5
I'll drink to that! DBoon Dec 11 #7
Pandering OC375 Dec 11 #8
This is way too much the correct thing to do, which means the only reason he's considering it AZJonnie Dec 11 #9
"he was bribed by someone(s) to do it." BumRushDaShow Dec 11 #10
And/or he wants his family in on the action. ananda Dec 11 #12
But didn't his BullS**t Bill make everything by CBD illegal in the coming months? It's the piece of legislation that in2herbs Dec 11 #11
yes im confused as welll samnsara Dec 12 #23
altho most of what i use has very little cbd.. samnsara Dec 12 #24
Why wouldn't he just legalize it and collect taxes on it? Bev54 Dec 11 #13
He's getting desperate for votes, but whatever he does now will be too little too late. Martin68 Dec 11 #14
"it does bad for..." LudwigPastorius Dec 11 #15
I almost posted the same thing AZJonnie Dec 12 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 12 #19
From the National Institute of Health (.gov) Publication: "Marijuana as Medicine." 3Hotdogs Dec 12 #21
its been legal in my state for over 10 years.. samnsara Dec 12 #22
What is wrong with these people? Just decriminalize it. Vinca Dec 12 #25
Glad to see theres at least one Biden policy he likes SSJVegeta Dec 12 #26
The biggest potheads i know, happen to be his supporters. Omnipresent Dec 12 #27
"i don't know how they can maintain their level of hate while on it." BumRushDaShow Dec 12 #28
I don't even know how they can be a wing of the Repub party. Omnipresent Dec 12 #31
"Republican's want to tell you who you can marry, what women can do with their bodies and so on." BumRushDaShow Dec 12 #33
Yes, you established that before Omnipresent Dec 12 #35
Speaking about top Libertarians podcasts womanofthehills Dec 12 #38
There is a secret agenda and it's not good.............. Lovie777 Dec 12 #29
I may have missed a post.... Trump Weed Sugarmaggie Dec 12 #30
That's probably part of it BumRushDaShow Dec 12 #34
I agree get the red out Dec 12 #32
for ten fucking years there were rumors he'd do something re: marijuana thebigidea Dec 12 #36
The small libertarian slice in my political pie chart is happy! nt Mark.b2 Dec 12 #37

wcmagumba

(5,533 posts)
1. Using Marijuana is safer that drinking alcohol in my opinion.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:36 PM
Dec 11

Marijuana users do not generally become violent while alcohol consumption seems to lead to violent behavior...imo

AZJonnie

(2,698 posts)
6. THC is WILDLY safer than alcohol by nearly every possible measure
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:18 PM
Dec 11

Alcohol is very reasonably argued to be a poison. When you're drunk, it's because you've poisoned yourself. And chronic abuse of it is deleterious to pretty much every cell in your body in some way, obviously your liver in particular, but there is almost no part of the body that is not at least annoyed and irritated by alcohol. It is literally terrible for you. Obviously that effect is highly dose-dependent and regularity-dependent, just like the health effects of everything. It's always about "concentrations".

OTOH, the only thing about THC is that it can make people with certain body/brain chemistry pretty uncomfortably "paranoid", whereas that doesn't really happen with alcohol. So then if you react badly in that way, you just don't use it because it's not fun (recreationally, any way). And there are some studies that suggest people with underlying mental health issues (chemical imbalances in the brain IOW) may have those be exacerbated with THC use, but that's probably also true of any drug that gets people high, including alcohol

But THC use is associated with virtually zero statistically-provable health problems, esp. if taken orally. Which is wildly different than alcohol, which absolutely 100%, is bad for your body and brain, with many, many known acute health problems associated with regular use, some of them leading to early death when its abused for a long period.

On a related note, if you could somehow take away the risk of acute overdose and their addictive properties, opioids (if pure and not used by IV, I mean) are also far safer health-wise than alcohol. What I mean is there's no known/proven harm to one's health caused by using opioids, they're almost entirely innocuous in terms of harming your organs, including your brain. UNLESS you take too much (acutely), or you get addicted and your behavior becomes hazardous to your well-being, you could take opioids all day every day, and it would never kill you directly (though you would be well-advised to take in some daily fiber if you were doing so). UNLIKE alcohol.

IbogaProject

(5,565 posts)
16. Panic attack is the only documented toxicity
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 12:59 AM
Dec 12

The threshold for panic varies over a huge range. You are refering to people who get paranoid from smallish amounts.

AZJonnie

(2,698 posts)
17. That was indeed what I was specifically addressing in this case, correct :)
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 01:22 AM
Dec 12

Acute paranoia, often with inexperienced users was what I meant. And yes, it's the only 'documented toxicity', if you even want to use such an extreme word as 'toxicity'. I'd call it more of an unwanted side-effect, myself

However, its definitely not unheard for extreme/chronic users to appear to develop paranoid thought patterns from that chronic use. This is a different phenomenon though vs. acute paranoia that's more common to inexperienced users.

And in fact, I'd suppose it *may* be that the people who seem to develop this sort of long-term paranoia may have already had the underlying problem before they even started using, which they then self-medicated with marijuana, and rather than improving it, it makes the pre-existing condition more acute over time. Simply because, it's not at it's heart, "a good thing for everyone to use in excess". No drug is.

Response to IbogaProject (Reply #16)

Blasphemer

(3,566 posts)
3. Good idea. They are only doing it because they need to finally make a policy move that people actually want. nt
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:39 PM
Dec 11

AZJonnie

(2,698 posts)
9. This is way too much the correct thing to do, which means the only reason he's considering it
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:24 PM
Dec 11

is that he was bribed by someone(s) to do it.

With a possible component of him thinking it will cause more people to say nice things about him, which he is clearly addicted to, like all malignant narcissists

BumRushDaShow

(165,175 posts)
10. "he was bribed by someone(s) to do it."
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:31 PM
Dec 11

It's a "populist" / "Libertarian" thing. So adherents to orgs like the Cato Institute, are probably calling in some chips to get the legalization process moving.

in2herbs

(4,159 posts)
11. But didn't his BullS**t Bill make everything by CBD illegal in the coming months? It's the piece of legislation that
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:02 PM
Dec 11

Rand Paul of KT wanted to be stripped out of the BBB.

LudwigPastorius

(14,049 posts)
15. "it does bad for..."
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:53 PM
Dec 11

That's dementia talk right there.

He couldn't come up with "negatively affects" or "harms".

Response to LudwigPastorius (Reply #15)

3Hotdogs

(14,982 posts)
21. From the National Institute of Health (.gov) Publication: "Marijuana as Medicine."
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 06:44 AM
Dec 12

"On the one hand, marijuana joints have been shown to deliver at least four times as much tar to the lungs as tobacco cigarettes"

farther down,

Subtopic heading: "WHERE THERE'S SMOKE, THERE'S HARM."

samnsara

(18,711 posts)
22. its been legal in my state for over 10 years..
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 06:59 AM
Dec 12

but at least (IF he passes this) I can walk into the local mom-and-pot store and not be carrying wads of cash

Vinca

(53,220 posts)
25. What is wrong with these people? Just decriminalize it.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 07:43 AM
Dec 12

He pardons a cocaine kingpin but wants to regulate weed? Idiot.

Omnipresent

(7,299 posts)
27. The biggest potheads i know, happen to be his supporters.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 07:59 AM
Dec 12

Although i don’t know how they can maintain their level of hate while on it.

BumRushDaShow

(165,175 posts)
28. "i don't know how they can maintain their level of hate while on it."
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 08:07 AM
Dec 12

That wing of the party are "Libertarians" (like the Paul family and Bill Maher). The are for "deregulation of everything" - meaning they don't want anyone or anything telling them what to do and how to think (which makes them "anti-Civil Rights" ).

Omnipresent

(7,299 posts)
31. I don't even know how they can be a wing of the Repub party.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 08:22 AM
Dec 12

Republican’s want to tell you who you can marry, what women can do with their bodies and so on.
They are primarily about controlling others because it’s hard for them to cope with the changing times.

BumRushDaShow

(165,175 posts)
33. "Republican's want to tell you who you can marry, what women can do with their bodies and so on."
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 09:21 AM
Dec 12

That's another wing of the GOP. The Libertarians are "pro-choice", again not because they care about women, but because they don't want "the government" to tell them what medical treatment they can or cannot get.

The GOP has -

1.) The religious RW loons
2.) The QAnon (or other CT) freaks
3.) The so-called "Fiscal Conservatives"
4.) The "Neocons"
5.) The "Isolationists/Nativists"
6.) The so-called "Corporate" and "Big business" pushers
7.) The "anti-regulation" Libertarians

Each one is a faction and whoever shouts the loudest gets their policies implemented.

womanofthehills

(10,686 posts)
38. Speaking about top Libertarians podcasts
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 11:40 AM
Dec 12

Dave Smith just went on a “what a loser Trump is” rant. Excepts are on X.

Another top Libertarian, Clint Russell just called it the Republican podcasters Civil war. Very nasty over in Republican podcast land. ( I like to follow them on X to see who is basically hating who.) They barely direct any hate now to Dems as they are so busy hating each other Now the fight has escalated big time where Candace and Erica Kirk are at big odds. CNN & Fox have put Erica Kirk on daily where she extolls how wonderful Israel & Turning Points” are while attacking Candace who is beloved by many Republicans. Candace believes “ Turning Points” had lied about Charlie’s death. I swear it’s like a daily soap opera over there with pmillions waiting daily for Candace’s podcast.

Name calling is gross - Republican podcaster men calling Republican women they disagree with “c**t” and “ignorant black bitch” plus even worse racist and sexist stuff - saying this stuff on their podcasts.

Many think it’s the end of the party. 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃. Good riddance!!!

BumRushDaShow

(165,175 posts)
34. That's probably part of it
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 09:26 AM
Dec 12


Gold-plated (for the masses) and solid-gold (for those with the means), "blunt boxes" for the ultimate in elegant joint cases.

thebigidea

(13,555 posts)
36. for ten fucking years there were rumors he'd do something re: marijuana
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 10:37 AM
Dec 12

He never fucking did and every inch of progress on that front in this country is because of Democrats.

That didn't stop those assholes from pretending Hillary was going to take your stash and Trump was for legal marijuana. Even though the Republican party didn't bend an inch and Trump never did a damn thing but authorize a few rumors. In fact, Republicans went out of their way to freeze or slow down any ballot initiatives on pot.

So, no. He's not going to fucking do anything at all because his entire party is geared towards keeping it criminalized so they can jerk off to their police fantasies.

It's amazing how even here there are PLENTY of people who fall for it despite Trump not doing a single thing to help.

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