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BumRushDaShow

(165,245 posts) Wed Dec 10, 2025, 04:10 AM Dec 10

Senate expected to vote on rival health care plans as ACA subsidies near expiration

Source: Scripps News

Posted 3:54 PM, Dec 09, 2025 and last updated 4:49 PM, Dec 09, 2025

Lawmakers on Capitol Hill are expected to vote Thursday on competing health care proposals as Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies near expiration at year’s end. Without action from Congress, millions of Americans could face a roughly 26% spike in health care costs. Democrats are unified behind a plan to extend those subsidies for three years, while GOP lawmakers plan to bring a counter-proposal to the floor.

Senate Majority Leader John Thune said that Senators will vote on a proposal from Republican Sens. Bill Cassidy and Mike Crapo, while blasting Democrats’ ACA-subsidy vote as “extending the status quo." "Democrats' great scheme to fix health care — Obamacare — has failed," Thune said on Monday. "... They proposed a clean, three-year extension of the enhanced Obamacare subsidies. Clean, Mr. President. No reforms, no revisions."

The GOP-led "Health Care Freedom for Patients Act" proposes sending money directly to patients rather than insurance companies and lowering insurance premiums and health care costs. It also seeks to expand Health Savings Account (HSA) eligibility, which is intended to help Americans cover out-of-pocket costs.

However, one part of the proposal that is likely to draw criticism from Democratic lawmaker, is that it calls for ending taxpayer-funded abortion or transgender services. The Republican plan also calls for reducing Medicaid funding to states that provide health insurance coverage to migrants who are in the country illegally and requires states to verify citizenship or immigration status before providing Medicaid coverage.

Read more: https://www.scrippsnews.com/politics/health-care/senate-expected-to-vote-on-rival-health-care-plans-as-aca-subsidies-near-expiration

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Senate expected to vote on rival health care plans as ACA subsidies near expiration (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 10 OP

Three challenges: no_hypocrisy Dec 10 #1

All three ways, it's still on the Republican party............... Lovie777 Dec 10 #2

You got it! moose65 Dec 10 #3

"$1,000 would be gone in a heartbeat if someone had a medical emergency." BumRushDaShow Dec 10 #4

$1,000 would not even cover an ambulance... maptap22 Dec 10 #5

Yup. BumRushDaShow Dec 10 #9

Republicants seem to not realize insurance companies negotiate prices HuskiesHowls Dec 10 #6

Once they destroy the ACA then Medicare is NEXT. Make no mistake about it Bengus81 Dec 10 #7

This, this right here. NotHardly Dec 10 #13

I wonder how many of those affected by this refused to vote for VP Harris because she was a woman, the wrong color, or lostincalifornia Dec 10 #8

First thing... LtTx Dec 10 #10

GOP plan usonian Dec 10 #11

and BumRushDaShow Dec 10 #12

no_hypocrisy

(54,144 posts)

1. Three challenges:

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 04:59 AM

Dec 10

1. Republican bills won't stabilize the prices of ACA.
2. Filibuster
3. Even if a democratic bill passes both Houses, Trump veto.

Lovie777

(21,591 posts)

2. All three ways, it's still on the Republican party...............

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 05:46 AM

Dec 10

fucking up affordable healthcare that works for millions of Americans.

Do they care? Hell no.

moose65

(3,438 posts)

3. You got it!

Reply to Lovie777 (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 06:21 AM

Dec 10

They don’t care.

They don’t want to do anything about health care. To them, the riffraff deserve to get sick and die. The sooner the better! Makes no sense.

And there’s no way that they’ll send any amount of money to people that will make any difference. $1,000 would be gone in a heartbeat if someone had a medical emergency.

BumRushDaShow

(165,245 posts)

4. "$1,000 would be gone in a heartbeat if someone had a medical emergency."

Reply to moose65 (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 07:40 AM

Dec 10

Would not even cover one night in a hospital.

maptap22

(245 posts)

5. $1,000 would not even cover an ambulance...

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 08:11 AM

Dec 10

BumRushDaShow

(165,245 posts)

9. Yup.

Reply to maptap22 (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 09:08 AM

Dec 10

HuskiesHowls

(739 posts)

6. Republicants seem to not realize insurance companies negotiate prices

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 08:20 AM

Dec 10

with hospitals and providers, such that the $7500 CT scan only gets billed at about $750. Doesn't mean that if i go into the ER and get a CT scan (without insurance) I'll only be billed $750, I'd get billed the full amount. Not to mention that smaller insurance pools means higher premiums.

They say that they want the money going to patients, instead of insurance companies. What they don't seem to know is that any money going to an individual will go to the insurance company for premiums. Paul gets paid, whether you pay him directly, or rob Peter to pay him.,

Medicare for all is the only real solution, and it IS what Eisenhower advocated in the 1950's.

Bengus81

(9,761 posts)

7. Once they destroy the ACA then Medicare is NEXT. Make no mistake about it

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 08:54 AM

Dec 10

They know their "plan" is a fucking joke. If they can get it foisted on Americans it will die before it starts and that will be that. Now..on to destroying Medicare,then Social Security.

NotHardly

(2,573 posts)

13. This, this right here.

Reply to Bengus81 (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 11:00 AM

Dec 10

lostincalifornia

(4,891 posts)

8. I wonder how many of those affected by this refused to vote for VP Harris because she was a woman, the wrong color, or

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 08:57 AM

Dec 10

because she was a Democrat?

LtTx

(43 posts)

10. First thing...

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 09:19 AM

Dec 10

Shouldn't it be called Health Care Freedom for AMERICANS..... patient is a term not used commonly in healthcare outside of the hospital setting. It denotes a passiveness that healthcare providers have been trying to get away from as long as I have been in healthcare----since 1983. As a case manager for Medicaid- we referred to people as clients or members. Same when I was employed in home health care- clients was the preferred term.

And their proposal is a joke.

But I guess I am just woke.....

usonian

(23,349 posts)

11. GOP plan

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 09:33 AM

Dec 10

BumRushDaShow

(165,245 posts)

12. and

Reply to usonian (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 10, 2025, 10:19 AM

Dec 10

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