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(6,078 posts) Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:23 PM Dec 1

'America, uh... First!': ICE to buy $7.2 million worth of Canadian armored personnel carriers

Source: Independent

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is spending more than $7 million on a fleet of armored vehicles designed to protect occupants against bomb blasts and which can stop a .50 caliber round, according to federal procurement records reviewed by The Independent.

However, the 20 bulletproof personnel carriers ordered by the nation’s deportation agency are not coming from an American manufacturer, but a Canadian company headquartered in Ontario – the province whose recent anti-tariff TV ad so infuriated Donald Trump, the president threatened additional levies on all goods coming in from the country.

On Trump’s first day back in office, he announced his “America First Trade Policy,” calling it “a critical component to national security” that he claimed would lessen America’s “dependence on other countries to meet our key security needs,” and, “above all,” benefit the nation’s workers and businesses.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ice-immigration-canada-tariffs-armored-vehicles-b2875951.html

These personnel carriers, the Roshel Senator, have been battle tested in Ukraine and stood up very well to Russian drone attacks.

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'America, uh... First!': ICE to buy $7.2 million worth of Canadian armored personnel carriers (Original Post) OnlinePoker Dec 1 OP

Trump and his Traildogbob Dec 1 #1

I gotta ask this question, because i have to understand how congress works. bluestarone Dec 1 #2

Can Ontario slap a revenge tariff on these vehicles? jls4561 Dec 1 #3

And why do they need these specifications: AverageOldGuy Dec 1 #4

I think you're heading in the same direction my mind went slightlv Dec 1 #7

Bingo NC popsdenver Dec 1 #16

Oh dear jaymac Dec 2 #19

You see very well. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 2 #20

Optics. progressoid Dec 1 #14

Eh, thanks Canada for selling these to our government, when they possibly could know that these will be used against SWBTATTReg Dec 1 #5

Looks To Me MissouriDem47 Dec 1 #6

If Canada does this purr-rat beauty Dec 1 #8

That's rich, coming from a country who elected a 'leader' who threatened to annex us no fewer than 24 times Fords Crackpipe Dec 1 #13

They must be planning on a real amp up Figarosmom Dec 1 #9

Roshel is a small company and there isn't enough of a market in Canada to sustain it. OnlinePoker Dec 1 #12

some poor left peaceful demonstrators popsdenver Dec 1 #17

That's going to piss off Oshkosh Truck. Ellipsis Dec 1 #10

Make them out of cardboard. PLEASE! Wonder Why Dec 1 #11

If Canadian citizens build them popsdenver Dec 1 #18

These are military vehicles Picaro Dec 1 #15

Traildogbob

(12,457 posts)

1. Trump and his

Reply to OnlinePoker (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:34 PM

Dec 1

Cabinet has a no cap credit card using the taxes paid by us. Two trillion added to dept in 11 months.
Even after ALL the saving by DOGE and Musk and thousands of Fed workers fired.
No a whisper from GQP budget hawks.
Great gig if ya can get it.

bluestarone

(21,066 posts)

2. I gotta ask this question, because i have to understand how congress works.

Reply to OnlinePoker (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:35 PM

Dec 1

When we win in November of 26, can the house then refuse funding ICE? What would happen then?

jls4561

(2,827 posts)

3. Can Ontario slap a revenge tariff on these vehicles?

Reply to OnlinePoker (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:37 PM

Dec 1

Or at least hide some stinky cheese under the front seat?

AverageOldGuy

(3,279 posts)

4. And why do they need these specifications:

Reply to OnlinePoker (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:55 PM

Dec 1

designed to protect occupants against bomb blasts and which can stop a .50 caliber round,

slightlv

(7,397 posts)

7. I think you're heading in the same direction my mind went

Reply to AverageOldGuy (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 07:11 PM

Dec 1

when I first read this. I know it's about the hypocrisy of "America First" but my mind immediately went to the militarization of a public law enforcement department. Those carriers are not going to be heading to Venezuela... he's planning on using them against American citizens exercising their right to protest the government... among other reasons. He's not going to be happy until he mows down a bunch of "lefties"... and his maga cultists will be right there beside him, cheering him on.

At least, that's the way *I* see it... YMMV.

popsdenver

(1,429 posts)

16. Bingo NC

Reply to slightlv (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:54 PM

Dec 1

jaymac

(194 posts)

19. Oh dear

Reply to slightlv (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:55 AM

Dec 2

Not 7 a.m. and I'm already distressed AGAIN!

OldBaldy1701E

(9,992 posts)

20. You see very well. (n/t)

Reply to slightlv (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 08:41 AM

Dec 2

progressoid

(52,502 posts)

14. Optics.

Reply to AverageOldGuy (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 09:24 PM

Dec 1

Donald can't have his police force running around in rental SUVs.

SWBTATTReg

(26,002 posts)

5. Eh, thanks Canada for selling these to our government, when they possibly could know that these will be used against

Reply to OnlinePoker (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 06:30 PM

Dec 1

Americans?

MissouriDem47

(392 posts)

6. Looks To Me

Reply to OnlinePoker (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 06:55 PM

Dec 1

ICE is prepping for Civil War II.

purr-rat beauty

(944 posts)

8. If Canada does this

Reply to OnlinePoker (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 08:01 PM

Dec 1

Fuck Canada

Fords Crackpipe

(126 posts)

13. That's rich, coming from a country who elected a 'leader' who threatened to annex us no fewer than 24 times

Reply to purr-rat beauty (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 09:15 PM

Dec 1

Countries do strange things when their much larger neighbor holds a literal gun to their head.

Historical pretext:

Trump Has Mentioned Annexing Canada at Least 24 Times Since Dec 9 (Interactive Timeline)
https://www.usaboycott.ca/tariffs/annexation-threats-timeline?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=annexation_timeline

Sweden made significant concessions to Germany. While the Allies understood Sweden's strategic plight and were sympathetic
https://1997-2001.state.gov/regions/eur/rpt_9806_ng_sweden.pdf

Figarosmom

(9,643 posts)

9. They must be planning on a real amp up

Reply to OnlinePoker (Original post)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 08:10 PM

Dec 1

If they think they are going to need these.

And why would Canada take the order?

OnlinePoker

(6,078 posts)

12. Roshel is a small company and there isn't enough of a market in Canada to sustain it.

Reply to Figarosmom (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 09:08 PM

Dec 1

They have been supporting Ukraine in the war with little to no profit from the units they've provided the Ukrainian military. They are trying to sell these globally and, I guess, ICE came calling.